[geeklog-devel] Re: You language file (fwd)

Tony Bibbs tony at tonybibbs.com
Fri Feb 21 12:06:49 EST 2003

Ok, I guess this will work OK after all...

Tony Bibbs          "I guess you have to remember that those who don't
tony at tonybibbs.com  hunt or fish often see those of us who do as      
                    harmlessly strange and sort of amusing. When you  
                    think about it, that might be a fair assessment." 

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:07:11 +0100
From: Wojciech Zielinski <voyteck at caffe.com.pl>
To: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
Subject: Re: You language file

Uz.ytkownik Tony Bibbs napisa?:
> Even if you have a dedicated website, that site can call the script 
> directly.  So I don't see that as a problem.
> However, and I don't mean this as criticism, I don't agree at all with the 
> notion of having to pay to make translations with your package.  Don't get 
> me wrong, I am all for making money and if that is your aim then more 
> power to you.  To be sure I am clear, the implication is that at some 
> point in the future, any PHP project using your translation class would 
> have to pay for using it, right?
> If I am right, this is a deal breaker for me and I would not be interested 
> in persuing this further.  Again, don't take that personal.  It would mean 
> that we disagree philisophically on this (which is OK).  I'll continue 
> with my input below just in case I have misinterpreted your statements.
You took it worngly. The Translation class will always be free and using 
it will always be off-charge. The only thing I am _thinking_only_ now is 
to create a payable website, that will help in translating the large 
projects by using the Translation class.
Imagine the situation you are the company that is hosting the large 
website and needs to add another language to that website. They can use 
the Translation class - they can hire some programmers, that will 
convert the whole PHP (or even HTML) code to the Translation-using code. 
They will have to pay them for some automatic work, that will look like 
they are getting all the visible strings (in case of PHP e.g. strings 
enclosed by "" and that are paraeters to printf() or echo methods) and 
changing them to proper tr->gstr() calls. And this work must be done on 
e.g. 100-1000 pages (scripts).
My intention is to make a website, on which this company may upload 
their scripts and they will be parsed by some engine, which will result 
the scripts with proper tr->gstr() calls and proper SQL scripts (or XML 
files) that will update the DB with correct strings.
And the only chargeable tjing is making such scripts - in fact making 
something, that would need much autoamtic work.
And - about the Translation class - anybody will always be able to use 
it _without_any_charge_ - so the OpenSource philosophy will not be 
forgotten :)
Besides - I think the money this will be able to make will be only 
sufficient enough to maintain some website especially dedicated for 
Translation - I do not think it's gona be some large money :)

If you're still interested - please let me know and we'll continue the 
development :)



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