[geeklog-devel] Input From PJ of Groklaw

[Vincent Furia]

5)  Comment Pagination: Already checked into CVS.  And yes, big
performance improvement on stories with LOTS of comments.

I haven't seen Rakaz around in a while, but next time I see him I'll
let him know the details of all the performance improvements I've
added.

I can't imagine what would cause stories and comments to diappear. 
There a couple places where, using my imagination, I could see
multiple Admins editing or adding an item at the same time could cause
problems, but that is more likely just some corruption rather than
"disappearance".

-Vinny

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:53:34 -0500, Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:
> I recently was made aware of some issues Groklaw was having.  Seems as
> though Stories and commennts come up missing sporadically.  I contacted
> PJ and she says she's been working with Rakaz (she calls him MathFox).
> on the issues. If anybody sees Rakaz in IRC they should bring this up
> and see how we might help.  Also, any changes related to performance
> that we have made we should share with Groklaw immediate so they might
> modify their existing code (vinny I think I saw CVS commits from you in
> particular related to performance and comments).
> 
> Aside from that PJ had a number of feature requests so I'm putting them
> here so that they will be considered in either of the branches:
> 
> 1) PJ likes to have a couple versions of the same page loaded.  In one
> she uses to view the article, in the othe she edits it.  She'd like away
> to do this in one page.
> 2) Comment moderation has been mentioned numerous times.  However, her
> request is that admins would be able to moderate the comments.  I think
> that is a bit more realistic (and useful).
> 3) She would like to mark bad comments as hidden (basic trolling).
> Naturally they would show up for the admin but not the regular users.
> 4) She would like quotations, blocks of text in an article, to
> optionally have a slightly darker shading than the rest of the page, so
> it would be clearly a quotation, without having to use quotation marks.
> Blaine can we borrow the forum code for this?
> 5) She'd like pagination of commments.  This is a good idea as it would
> help performance.
> 6) She'd like users to edit their own comments and even delete them if
> no one has responded to it yet.
> 7) Similar to #1 she wants to be able to edit and review a static page
> in one sweep.
> 8) Add the ability to convert a PDF to plain text (great idea to
> compliment our new PDF generation)
> 9) This one is hard to rearticulate so I'm quoting her exactly: "It
> would be nice if there could be a work area, where everyone could work
> on a document together, which I could let certain groups have access
> to.  It's the single hardest part of Groklaw, the difficulty of working
> together fast when we're all over the world.  I know I could do it now
> if I give everyone the power, but for security reasons, it has to be a
> walled off area, so they can't wander about.  My readers know how to do
> everything, and sometimes we get volunteers with an agenda, so I need to
> be careful.  When we do audio transcripts, for example, we typically
> break it up into mp3s and then everyone gets sent one. It would be
> pleasant to be able to have folks just come and grab what they want and
> have a place to input the result on Groklaw, instead of it all being
> funneled through me."
> 
> Obviously some of these we've seen before.  Some we haven't.  I think
> quite a few are low hanging fruit and others would take quite a bit of
> work.  Nonetheless, I think we should consider these.  I know in a truly
> democratic system (which this isn't necessarily) we give all users the
> same say but I think we would be wise to at least address a few of these
> ideas as I'd hate to see Groklaw change platforms.  To be clear,
> changing platforms wasn't mentioned in the message she sent me but I
> can't imagine it wasn't thought off considering they have content
> disappearing.
> 
> Also, this may be a good time to try recruiting more help off of
> geeklog.net.  I was surprised at the help I got for Auth_Enterprise by
> nagging people there.  I think if we create a request for help and list
> some of these request (along with any prexisting issues on the project
> site) and drop Groklaw's name we might get more help because....well,
> nobody really wants to see SCO win this thing and helping, even if in
> this indirect way, would probably motivate people.
> 
> Thoughts, questions or concerns?
> 
> --Tony
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