From tony at tonybibbs.com  Mon Apr  4 14:43:49 2005
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:43:49 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] mailing list move inevitable
Message-ID: <42518AE5.4020001@tonybibbs.com>

This week my family and I move into a new house.  This will force me to 
finally move all email I manage over to the colo server.  I do expect 
outages but hopefully they will all be short lived.  Move should happen 
between now and Wednesday.

--Tony


From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr  5 14:38:32 2005
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:38:32 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog tutorial in Japanese (I think)
Message-ID: <20050405183832.6827@smtp.haun-online.de>

I don't understand a word, but this Japanese article seems to walk the
reader through the installation and initial setup of a Geeklog site. Lots
of screenshots for us westeners to look at :-)

http://www.itmedia.co.jp/enterprise/articles/0412/16/news054.html

It looks quite nice, actually. We should have something like that in English.

bye, Dirk


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http://geeklog.info/



From justin.carlson at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 14:53:44 2005
From: justin.carlson at gmail.com (Justin Carlson)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:53:44 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Bug and it's fix.
Message-ID: <3d1a3f4e0504051153cb72a29@mail.gmail.com>

Downloaded the latest version the other day, came accross this bug.

On or near line 273 of layout/professional/admin/story/storyeditor.thtml

var jstest = {showarchivedisabled}

Now, if for whatever reason {showarchivedisabled} is not there, does
not get placed, falls into another dimension, whatever, there will be
a JS error every time you edit a story.  I am not sure why this
started happening really, have not edited the code much at all. But it
happened, and I found it annoying.

Solution for fix, change the line to:
var jstest = "{showarchivedisabled}";

Now when {showarchivedisabled} does not show up, the source ends up with:
var jstest="";

Thoughts?


From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr  5 15:03:16 2005
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:03:16 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
Message-ID: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>

Well, it has finally happened:

>My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
>registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
>
>I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
>
>I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>

What's our official reaction now?

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Tue Apr  5 15:40:43 2005
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:40:43 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <002501c53a17$5b8663c0$650a10ac@XPBL2>

I suggest SpanX then :P

Blaine 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:03 PM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?


Well, it has finally happened:

>My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
>registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
>
>I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
>
>I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>

What's our official reaction now?

bye, Dirk


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From justin.carlson at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 15:43:38 2005
From: justin.carlson at gmail.com (Justin Carlson)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:43:38 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <002501c53a17$5b8663c0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>
	 <002501c53a17$5b8663c0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
Message-ID: <3d1a3f4e05040512435af9c0b8@mail.gmail.com>

OpenSpamX?  Heh I don't know ;)

On Apr 5, 2005 1:40 PM, Blaine Lang <geeklog at langfamily.ca> wrote:
> I suggest SpanX then :P
> 
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
> To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:03 PM
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
> 
> Well, it has finally happened:
> 
> >My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
> >registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
> >
> >I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
> >
> >I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
> from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>
> 
> What's our official reaction now?
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> --
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> http://geeklog.info/
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vidomski at lightbender.ca  Tue Apr  5 15:48:25 2005
From: vidomski at lightbender.ca (Kevin Vidomski)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:48:25 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <4252EB89.4080700@lightbender.ca>

How about JunkboX?

Kevin

Dirk Haun wrote:

>Well, it has finally happened:
>
>  
>
>>My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
>>registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
>>
>>I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
>>
>>I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
>>    
>>
>from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>
>
>What's our official reaction now?
>
>bye, Dirk
>
>
>  
>



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From tony at tonybibbs.com  Tue Apr  5 16:11:41 2005
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:11:41 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <4252EB89.4080700@lightbender.ca>
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de> <4252EB89.4080700@lightbender.ca>
Message-ID: <4252F0FD.1060404@tonybibbs.com>

not-hendrickson-software-components-sucky-spamx

--Tony

Kevin Vidomski wrote:

> How about JunkboX?
>
> Kevin
>
> Dirk Haun wrote:
>
>> Well, it has finally happened:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
>>> registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
>>>
>>> I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
>>>   
>>
>> from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>
>>
>> What's our official reaction now?
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>



From justin.carlson at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 16:35:40 2005
From: justin.carlson at gmail.com (Justin Carlson)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:35:40 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <4252F0FD.1060404@tonybibbs.com>
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>
	 <4252EB89.4080700@lightbender.ca> <4252F0FD.1060404@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <3d1a3f4e05040513351038352b@mail.gmail.com>

Too bad there is no prior art law with trademarks, this guy registered
it January 24th, 2005.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=3amc9p.2.1



On Apr 5, 2005 2:11 PM, Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:
> not-hendrickson-software-components-sucky-spamx
> 
> --Tony
> 
> Kevin Vidomski wrote:
> 
> > How about JunkboX?
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > Dirk Haun wrote:
> >
> >> Well, it has finally happened:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
> >>> registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
> >>>
> >>> I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
> >>>
> >>
> >> from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>
> >>
> >> What's our official reaction now?
> >>
> >> bye, Dirk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>


From tony at tonybibbs.com  Tue Apr  5 16:49:19 2005
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:49:19 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <3d1a3f4e05040513351038352b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050405190317.5231@smtp.haun-online.de>	 <4252EB89.4080700@lightbender.ca> <4252F0FD.1060404@tonybibbs.com> <3d1a3f4e05040513351038352b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com>

On a more serious note, I would explain that we are an open source group 
with no formal business organization and that our tool is not directly 
related to nor competes with their product.  I would point out Justin's 
email about prior work (though he's right...it holds no water) and then 
I would finish it up by noting that we would be willing to change the 
name but that we won't have nice things to say about him nor his company 
because of this (free speech is great).

And, no, I'm not above name calling.

--Tony

Justin Carlson wrote:

>Too bad there is no prior art law with trademarks, this guy registered
>it January 24th, 2005.
>
>http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=3amc9p.2.1
>
>
>
>On Apr 5, 2005 2:11 PM, Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>not-hendrickson-software-components-sucky-spamx
>>
>>--Tony
>>
>>Kevin Vidomski wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>How about JunkboX?
>>>
>>>Kevin
>>>
>>>Dirk Haun wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Well, it has finally happened:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>My company, hendrickson software components (hsc), is the owner of the
>>>>>registered trademarks, Sp at mX, and SpamX.
>>>>>
>>>>>I noticed on your web site that you are using this name (SpamX).
>>>>>
>>>>>I was wondering if you would mind switching this to another name??
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>from <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=50730>
>>>>
>>>>What's our official reaction now?
>>>>
>>>>bye, Dirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>geeklog-devel mailing list
>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>    
>>
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>



From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr  5 16:56:38 2005
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:56:38 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com>
References: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de>

Tony Bibbs wrote:

>I would point out Justin's 
>email about prior work (though he's right...it holds no water)

Won't help. The USPTO entry claims first use in commerce as of 2003-10-
03. The SpamX plugin was released 2004-06-14.

bye, Dirk


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http://www.handful-of-sparks.de/



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Tue Apr  5 17:01:22 2005
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:01:22 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com> <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <4252FCA2.4070808@tonybibbs.com>

Blah, still my other points still stand.  The guy is an idiot.

--Tony

Dirk Haun wrote:

>Tony Bibbs wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I would point out Justin's 
>>email about prior work (though he's right...it holds no water)
>>    
>>
>
>Won't help. The USPTO entry claims first use in commerce as of 2003-10-
>03. The SpamX plugin was released 2004-06-14.
>
>bye, Dirk
>
>
>  
>



From justin.carlson at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 17:01:05 2005
From: justin.carlson at gmail.com (Justin Carlson)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:01:05 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com>
	 <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <3d1a3f4e05040514013691edcb@mail.gmail.com>

Did not read that, but, just fyi, there are no prior art rules for
trademarks like there are for other things, once registered, prior art
is screwed.  In this case it would not matter if he had just thought
it up, registered,  and began using it yesterday, since he registered
it first.


On Apr 5, 2005 2:56 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Tony Bibbs wrote:
> 
> >I would point out Justin's
> >email about prior work (though he's right...it holds no water)
> 
> Won't help. The USPTO entry claims first use in commerce as of 2003-10-
> 03. The SpamX plugin was released 2004-06-14.
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> --
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> http://www.handful-of-sparks.de/
> 
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>


From tomw at pigstye.net  Tue Apr  5 17:45:58 2005
From: tomw at pigstye.net (Tom Willett)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:45:58 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Goodbye "SpamX" then?
In-Reply-To: <4252FCA2.4070808@tonybibbs.com>
References: <4252F9CF.6020309@tonybibbs.com> <20050405205638.9517@smtp.haun-online.de> <4252FCA2.4070808@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <42530716.8050101@pigstye.net>

On 4/5/2005 4:01 PM, Tony Bibbs wrote:

> Blah, still my other points still stand.  The guy is an idiot.
>
> --Tony
>
> Dirk Haun wrote:
>
>> Tony Bibbs wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I would point out Justin's email about prior work (though he's 
>>> right...it holds no water)
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Won't help. The USPTO entry claims first use in commerce as of 2003-10-
>> 03. The SpamX plugin was released 2004-06-14.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

What about http://www.spamx.com looks like another spamx that is nearly 
identical to the hendrickson release.  Written in Java  Registered on 
12-24-00.

Also http://freshmeat.net/projects/spamx/  which started Sep 30, 2002

Both of which appear to be open source or free. 

I should be flattered that the name I choose is so popular.

Maybe I should trademark pigstye and my little pig, since domain 
speculators have purchased pigstye.com, thepigstye.net and 
thepigstye.com and have them parked.  (The speculator tried to sell me 
pigstye.com a while back.)  Then I could demand they give me the 
domains, because they infringe on my trademark.

-- 

Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Wed Apr  6 16:22:18 2005
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:22:18 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Re: Theme for GL2 engine
In-Reply-To: <20050406200624.63605.qmail@qs457.pair.com>
References: <20050406200624.63605.qmail@qs457.pair.com>
Message-ID: <425444FA.1030902@tonybibbs.com>

Because we are using an entirely new template engine, you can be 
gauranteed that none of the existing 1.3.x themes will work under 2.x. I 
think that should probably answer all the questions you gave me 
(indirectly so).

To the extent possible, however, we will migrate as much data over from 
the existing core plugins but the UI part of GL2 will be entirely. When 
I say core plugins I am referring to staticpages and spamx as well as 
the non-plugin features in 1.3.x that will become plugins in GL2 (links, 
stories, blocks, etc). All other plugins will need to have a migration 
path provided by the current maintainer of that plugin.

--Tony

Vasilij wrote:

>Dear Tony,
>
>I have been using GL engine for some years now. And it?s from 1.3.X ? 1.3.XX.
>
>Before I begin to working with design draft I wish to understand following (or if it is a place somewhere on your site, answering my questions, please send a link):
>
>As far as I remember, most of the pages are generated with the use of thtml, placed under the Layout directory. When I was customizing themes I found out, that some of the pages (I believe calender, etc.) are generated with partial use of templates.
>
>My questions in this regard are:
>
>1)	Are you planning to move all formating staff to templates only? (If so, it would be much easier to manipulate with design.)
>2)	Are variables names for outputting in GL2 the same as in CL1.3.X(X)? (If not ? where can I find description on variable names for output)
>3)	Is your Professional theme compatible with the GL2?
>4)	Please advice me on the page main color, which you would like to use (send me HEX color code). In your Professional theme you have  blue with white dominant. Would you like me to use those?
>
>I would like to make some design drafts, which I will send to you for approval. When approved, I will make them done. And then maybe you can use some of them.
>
>Looking forward to receiving your answers (links),
>
>With many thanks for the amazing programming work and effort, you are putting into Open Source community.
>
>Vasilij
>vasilij at email.dk
>www.booknu.dk
>  
>