[geeklog-devel] Perception is everything...

Tony Bibbs tony at tonybibbs.com
Wed Apr 9 14:38:50 EDT 2008

Sounds like a majority of people seem to agree with conflicts with the name.  I think you can file arguments for changing the name into a couple buckets:

1) Marketing.  This is as much about making it "sound" good as it is performing well.  Is it the desire of GL developers to see their work used in more professional areas?  I know I can answer yes to that and I can't tell you how uncomfortable it is to use the "Geeklog" name in from of a 50yr old manager type who knows little about technology.

2) Perception of change.  Let's face it...back when I was running the project until now Geeklog has changed tremendously.  All GL devs seem to hate the CMS label it gets.   If we want to really redefine what GL is to us, a name change could help make that point. To also help this, we are literally nearing a end of development before the first GL2 alpha.  To help usher in all this change maybe a coordinated effort to change the name and release both 1.5 and GL2 alpha1 all at once?

Finally, more to Mark's concerns I don't see this as a distraction at all.  I think if we all agree to make the name change then we can define a community process for collecting feedback and all that can be happening while 1.5 and GL2a1 development wraps up.  I also feel strongly about item #1 above and this is over 7yrs of experience with the tool talking.  I think all this stuff harnessed and coordinated can really generate some buzz which is definitely a good thing.


----- Original Message ----
From: William P. Bushey <busheywp at clarkson.edu>
To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 9:24:05 AM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Perception is everything...

RE: [geeklog-devel] Perception is everything...  May I put my 2 cents in? As a person who has just discovered Geeklog I did find the name to be very misleading. When I first heard of Geeklog I figured it was a program to assist in team coding, perhaps a code versioning system with chat support and logging.

If I may be so bold as to suggest a different name, based on the broad website platform that Geeklog really is, perhaps a spinoff of Microsoft's .Net name would work. How about .Site or Dot Site (since punctuation in a name can be a hassle .)
-Bill B

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Bibbs [mailto:tony at tonybibbs.com]
Sent: Tue 4/8/2008 9:13 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Perception is everything...

Ok, so I've got a couple of points related to the "Is Geeklog Dead" question.

First of all, I'd be happy to do weekly or bi-monthly posts on gl.net about successful GL installations.  The idea is simple, have a standard form asking users about their decision to use Geeklog, what features are most important to them, areas of improvement and whatnot.  I've got at least a half dozen sites at the State of Iowa I could recommend and I know we can dig up a lot more including some of our most noteable like Groklaw, etc.

Also, more controversial, I've struggled with the Geeklog brand.  I don't doubt that we've garnered some respect in the open source CMS areana but I have a hard time selling non-techies on "Geeklog".  In fact it is to the point I just call it a "Content Management System" to avoid the silly looks I get.  My question is am I the only one that feels this way?  If not, I'd like to suggest renaming the project and allowing community participation on picking the name.  I'm fine with leaving it as Geeklog but figured it'd be worth discussion.  I'll go crawl under a rock now...


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