From joe at throwingdice.com Fri Mar 1 23:20:53 2013 From: joe at throwingdice.com (Joe Mucchiello) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 22:20:53 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 In-Reply-To: <006b01ce143b$cb86fb10$6294f130$@cogeco.net> References: <2249A69B-D545-4EF6-9337-4D0081CA78C4@haun-online.de> <037b01ce0930$54927e50$fdb77af0$@cogeco.net> <20130221104948.Horde.J-kyW6GZi1VRJe28vCVjWvA@webmail.df.eu> <003801ce13be$adb0eb50$0912c1f0$@cogeco.net> <006b01ce143b$cb86fb10$6294f130$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <90cfa9a924076c97e336b19ca4b9cb64.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> While you are there, look into the glFusion template engine that I originally submitted to geeklog 6 years ago. Aside from some minor tweaking, it looks untouched from the code I wrote all those years ago. It is still a drop in replacement for the existing template engine that will work with whatever templates are currently out in the wild and provides many features lacking in the current engine, like conditional variables. And it allows for caching entire pages if properly integrated into the source of that page, like they've done in glFusion. http://sourceforge.net/p/glfusion/code/7381/tree/glfusion/trunk/private/system/classes/template.class.php > Hmmm. That is something we will have to definitely look at. There is no > point reinventing the wheel if we do not have to. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste > Sent: February-26-13 8:39 AM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code > 2013 > > For information there is a new session handler in the next glfusion [1]: > and a new subscription system: From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Mar 2 10:28:10 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:28:10 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 In-Reply-To: <90cfa9a924076c97e336b19ca4b9cb64.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> References: <2249A69B-D545-4EF6-9337-4D0081CA78C4@haun-online.de> <037b01ce0930$54927e50$fdb77af0$@cogeco.net> <20130221104948.Horde.J-kyW6GZi1VRJe28vCVjWvA@webmail.df.eu> <003801ce13be$adb0eb50$0912c1f0$@cogeco.net> <006b01ce143b$cb86fb10$6294f130$@cogeco.net> <90cfa9a924076c97e336b19ca4b9cb64.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> Message-ID: <00d001ce175a$8c4bdac0$a4e39040$@cogeco.net> Hi Joe, Welcome back ;-) That is an interesting idea. Is it truly a drop in replacement? We last worked on the template engine in 2010 (besides a few small commits). When did you do your template work again for glFusion? Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Joe Mucchiello Sent: March-01-13 11:21 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 While you are there, look into the glFusion template engine that I originally submitted to geeklog 6 years ago. Aside from some minor tweaking, it looks untouched from the code I wrote all those years ago. It is still a drop in replacement for the existing template engine that will work with whatever templates are currently out in the wild and provides many features lacking in the current engine, like conditional variables. And it allows for caching entire pages if properly integrated into the source of that page, like they've done in glFusion. http://sourceforge.net/p/glfusion/code/7381/tree/glfusion/trunk/private/syst em/classes/template.class.php > Hmmm. That is something we will have to definitely look at. There is > no point reinventing the wheel if we do not have to. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste > Sent: February-26-13 8:39 AM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code > 2013 > > For information there is a new session handler in the next glfusion [1]: > and a new subscription system: _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Mar 2 17:41:02 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 17:41:02 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 Message-ID: <00f401ce1797$04f0bef0$0ed23cd0$@cogeco.net> Hi All, We haven't seen too many bugs reported for Geeklog 2.0.0rc2. Let's wait another 2 weeks and see how things are at that point. If things looks good I would like to release the final of Geeklog 2.0.0 if that is okay with everyone? This way we can move on and plan new features for Geeklog 2.0.1 and get the forum plugin (and a few others) released with updates to support Geeklog 2.0.0. Tom From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Mar 2 18:20:16 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:20:16 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 In-Reply-To: <00f401ce1797$04f0bef0$0ed23cd0$@cogeco.net> References: <00f401ce1797$04f0bef0$0ed23cd0$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <84A1A3D3-5AC3-4F00-AB04-A9281F47CE32@haun-online.de> Tom wrote: > We haven't seen too many bugs reported for Geeklog 2.0.0rc2. Let's wait > another 2 weeks and see how things are at that point. If things looks good I > would like to release the final of Geeklog 2.0.0 if that is okay with > everyone? Can I suggest a different approach? Release an rc3 soon (as in the next few days) and then wait 2 weeks. If we announce that we expect this to be the final rc, it could possibly motivate a few people to actually try things out. And we did have a few bugs that may benefit from another round of testing (e.g. that More? bug but also the FCKEditor update). Speaking of bugs: Why doesn't http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.8.2sr1#comments take me to the comments section? We seem to be missing the "comments" anchor there somewhere. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sun Mar 3 09:49:18 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:49:18 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 In-Reply-To: <84A1A3D3-5AC3-4F00-AB04-A9281F47CE32@haun-online.de> References: <00f401ce1797$04f0bef0$0ed23cd0$@cogeco.net> <84A1A3D3-5AC3-4F00-AB04-A9281F47CE32@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <011001ce181e$48811e30$d9835a90$@cogeco.net> That sounds fine. It will also give me a change to update jQuery again with the new maintenance release. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: March-02-13 6:20 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 Tom wrote: > We haven't seen too many bugs reported for Geeklog 2.0.0rc2. Let's > wait another 2 weeks and see how things are at that point. If things > looks good I would like to release the final of Geeklog 2.0.0 if that > is okay with everyone? Can I suggest a different approach? Release an rc3 soon (as in the next few days) and then wait 2 weeks. If we announce that we expect this to be the final rc, it could possibly motivate a few people to actually try things out. And we did have a few bugs that may benefit from another round of testing (e.g. that More. bug but also the FCKEditor update). Speaking of bugs: Why doesn't http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.8.2sr1#comments take me to the comments section? We seem to be missing the "comments" anchor there somewhere. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From joe at throwingdice.com Mon Mar 4 00:21:04 2013 From: joe at throwingdice.com (Joe Mucchiello) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:21:04 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 In-Reply-To: <00d001ce175a$8c4bdac0$a4e39040$@cogeco.net> References: <2249A69B-D545-4EF6-9337-4D0081CA78C4@haun-online.de> <037b01ce0930$54927e50$fdb77af0$@cogeco.net> <20130221104948.Horde.J-kyW6GZi1VRJe28vCVjWvA@webmail.df.eu> <003801ce13be$adb0eb50$0912c1f0$@cogeco.net> <006b01ce143b$cb86fb10$6294f130$@cogeco.net> <90cfa9a924076c97e336b19ca4b9cb64.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> <00d001ce175a$8c4bdac0$a4e39040$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <49d91b740a9fd6eb6566a2d905738c75.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> The CTL as it was once called was a part of glFusion from day one. I do believe there were a few bug fixes made to it in glFusion due to 100% compatibility issues involving the caching side. But it has always worked well with stock plugins. Since that first release, there was another release that included a few more conditional variable updates and changes. I would have thought being part a living codebase for 6 years would have changed it some but apparently it has been working just fine for them at glFusion these 6 years. All the library has ever needed was someone on the core team to be willing to check it in and give a good look. I'm not really back. The volume on geeklog-devel is low enough that I've felt the need to unsubscribe. It's like having an old girlfriend as a friend on Facebook for me by now. But seriously, I want to encourage you to investigate borrowing things from glFusion. If you used their template engine it might once again be possible to share plugins between the projects. Heck, the library is "part of Geeklog". One of the devs from Japan maintains a version of mediagallery (Mark's old plugin) that has the updates Mark has made to the plugin in glFusion which of course takes advantage of the new features in the template library. This was only possible by including my template library in the plugin and having the plugin use it in place of the normal template class found in Geeklog. I think the version of the template library used there has the caching part removed, though I could be wrong about that: http://www.trybase.com/~dengen/log/downloads/index.php/mediagallery-wkz_1.6.13_en > Hi Joe, > > Welcome back ;-) > > That is an interesting idea. Is it truly a drop in replacement? We last > worked on the template engine in 2010 (besides a few small commits). When > did you do your template work again for glFusion? > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Joe > Mucchiello > Sent: March-01-13 11:21 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code > 2013 > > While you are there, look into the glFusion template engine that I > originally submitted to geeklog 6 years ago. Aside from some minor > tweaking, > it looks untouched from the code I wrote all those years ago. It is still > a > drop in replacement for the existing template engine that will work with > whatever templates are currently out in the wild and provides many > features > lacking in the current engine, like conditional variables. > And it allows for caching entire pages if properly integrated into the > source of that page, like they've done in glFusion. > > http://sourceforge.net/p/glfusion/code/7381/tree/glfusion/trunk/private/syst > em/classes/template.class.php > >> Hmmm. That is something we will have to definitely look at. There is >> no point reinventing the wheel if we do not have to. >> >> Tom >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste >> Sent: February-26-13 8:39 AM >> To: Geeklog Development >> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code >> 2013 >> >> For information there is a new session handler in the next glfusion [1]: > >> and a new subscription system: > From websitemaster at cogeco.net Mon Mar 4 09:24:55 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 In-Reply-To: <49d91b740a9fd6eb6566a2d905738c75.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> References: <2249A69B-D545-4EF6-9337-4D0081CA78C4@haun-online.de> <037b01ce0930$54927e50$fdb77af0$@cogeco.net> <20130221104948.Horde.J-kyW6GZi1VRJe28vCVjWvA@webmail.df.eu> <003801ce13be$adb0eb50$0912c1f0$@cogeco.net> <006b01ce143b$cb86fb10$6294f130$@cogeco.net> <90cfa9a924076c97e336b19ca4b9cb64.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> <00d001ce175a$8c4bdac0$a4e39040$@cogeco.net> <49d91b740a9fd6eb6566a2d905738c75.squirrel@mustang.hawkhost.com> Message-ID: <015c01ce18e4$0adba520$2092ef60$@cogeco.net> >> I'm not really back. I realize that but it is always good to hear from previous contributors every now and then. When the next version of glFusion is released I planned on taking a look at the core notification service and the new php session management system. I will add the template engine to the list. I have been wanting to add/update these systems for a while now in Geeklog. If the code looks easy to port and if everyone else agrees, with some help it would be nice to integrate this stuff into Geeklog in the next version. There is no point to re-invent the wheel if we do not have to. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Joe Mucchiello Sent: March-04-13 12:21 AM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code 2013 The CTL as it was once called was a part of glFusion from day one. I do believe there were a few bug fixes made to it in glFusion due to 100% compatibility issues involving the caching side. But it has always worked well with stock plugins. Since that first release, there was another release that included a few more conditional variable updates and changes. I would have thought being part a living codebase for 6 years would have changed it some but apparently it has been working just fine for them at glFusion these 6 years. All the library has ever needed was someone on the core team to be willing to check it in and give a good look. I'm not really back. The volume on geeklog-devel is low enough that I've felt the need to unsubscribe. It's like having an old girlfriend as a friend on Facebook for me by now. But seriously, I want to encourage you to investigate borrowing things from glFusion. If you used their template engine it might once again be possible to share plugins between the projects. Heck, the library is "part of Geeklog". One of the devs from Japan maintains a version of mediagallery (Mark's old plugin) that has the updates Mark has made to the plugin in glFusion which of course takes advantage of the new features in the template library. This was only possible by including my template library in the plugin and having the plugin use it in place of the normal template class found in Geeklog. I think the version of the template library used there has the caching part removed, though I could be wrong about that: http://www.trybase.com/~dengen/log/downloads/index.php/mediagallery-wkz_1.6. 13_en > Hi Joe, > > Welcome back ;-) > > That is an interesting idea. Is it truly a drop in replacement? We > last worked on the template engine in 2010 (besides a few small > commits). When did you do your template work again for glFusion? > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Joe > Mucchiello > Sent: March-01-13 11:21 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of Code > 2013 > > While you are there, look into the glFusion template engine that I > originally submitted to geeklog 6 years ago. Aside from some minor > tweaking, it looks untouched from the code I wrote all those years > ago. It is still a drop in replacement for the existing template > engine that will work with whatever templates are currently out in the > wild and provides many features lacking in the current engine, like > conditional variables. > And it allows for caching entire pages if properly integrated into the > source of that page, like they've done in glFusion. > > http://sourceforge.net/p/glfusion/code/7381/tree/glfusion/trunk/privat > e/syst > em/classes/template.class.php > >> Hmmm. That is something we will have to definitely look at. There is >> no point reinventing the wheel if we do not have to. >> >> Tom >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of >> cordiste >> Sent: February-26-13 8:39 AM >> To: Geeklog Development >> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Summer of >> Code >> 2013 >> >> For information there is a new session handler in the next glfusion [1]: > >> and a new subscription system: > _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Tue Mar 5 11:05:13 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:05:13 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 In-Reply-To: <011001ce181e$48811e30$d9835a90$@cogeco.net> References: <00f401ce1797$04f0bef0$0ed23cd0$@cogeco.net> <84A1A3D3-5AC3-4F00-AB04-A9281F47CE32@haun-online.de> <011001ce181e$48811e30$d9835a90$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <020701ce19bb$3872f600$a958e200$@cogeco.net> Okay, I plan to do a rc3 release of Geeklog 2.0.0 on the weekend (unless someone finds some bugs). I hope that this is the final rc release with the plan to release the final Geeklog 2.0.0 version 2 weeks after. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: March-03-13 9:49 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 That sounds fine. It will also give me a change to update jQuery again with the new maintenance release. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: March-02-13 6:20 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0rc2 Tom wrote: > We haven't seen too many bugs reported for Geeklog 2.0.0rc2. Let's > wait another 2 weeks and see how things are at that point. If things > looks good I would like to release the final of Geeklog 2.0.0 if that > is okay with everyone? Can I suggest a different approach? Release an rc3 soon (as in the next few days) and then wait 2 weeks. If we announce that we expect this to be the final rc, it could possibly motivate a few people to actually try things out. And we did have a few bugs that may benefit from another round of testing (e.g. that More. bug but also the FCKEditor update). Speaking of bugs: Why doesn't http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.8.2sr1#comments take me to the comments section? We seem to be missing the "comments" anchor there somewhere. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Fri Mar 8 11:12:13 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:12:13 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net and Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 Message-ID: <00f201ce1c17$b2059960$1610cc20$@cogeco.net> I released Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 this morning and have now updated Geeklog.net to this version. I hope we can release the final version of Geeklog 2.0.0 by the end of March. Tom From ironmax at spacequad.com Sat Mar 9 13:13:52 2013 From: ironmax at spacequad.com (ironmax at spacequad.com) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:13:52 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E1ACFD18EB34DDB9BDAE5BB91BA2B2B@spacequad.com> Tom, The http://nextdemo.geeklog.net site updated to 2.0.0rc3 Please change the main site to reflect the change on the link. Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:12:13 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net and Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 To: "'Geeklog Development'" Message-ID: <00f201ce1c17$b2059960$1610cc20$@cogeco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I released Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 this morning and have now updated Geeklog.net to this version. I hope we can release the final version of Geeklog 2.0.0 by the end of March. Tom ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel End of geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 ******************************************** From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Mar 9 15:34:47 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:34:47 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <4E1ACFD18EB34DDB9BDAE5BB91BA2B2B@spacequad.com> References: <4E1ACFD18EB34DDB9BDAE5BB91BA2B2B@spacequad.com> Message-ID: <014601ce1d05$8a420eb0$9ec62c10$@cogeco.net> Done. Thanks Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of ironmax at spacequad.com Sent: March-09-13 1:14 PM To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 Tom, The http://nextdemo.geeklog.net site updated to 2.0.0rc3 Please change the main site to reflect the change on the link. Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:12:13 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net and Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 To: "'Geeklog Development'" Message-ID: <00f201ce1c17$b2059960$1610cc20$@cogeco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I released Geeklog 2.0.0rc3 this morning and have now updated Geeklog.net to this version. I hope we can release the final version of Geeklog 2.0.0 by the end of March. Tom ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel End of geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 ******************************************** _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Mar 17 13:34:43 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:34:43 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2013 Message-ID: The application period for mentoring organisations for GSoC 2013 starts tomorrow. Do we still want to participate? If so, we would need: - a good ideas list - a backup admin - (soon) more mentors Our ideas list could certainly do with some more love and maybe another project idea or two. Specifically, we don't seem to have a project with a difficulty level less than "medium". We don't always need to provide such long project descriptions like for the ones we already have. If you have a look at, for example, the ideas list of KDE[1], they are often much shorter (as long as the goal is clear). So, where do we stand? bye, Dirk [1] http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sun Mar 17 20:29:55 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:29:55 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 and FCKeditor Message-ID: <00ac01ce236f$b6d8da10$248a8e30$@cogeco.net> We are starting to have problems with the FCKeditor (updated in Geeklog to version 2.6.9) with the newer versions of Internet Explorer. IE 9 seems to have problems with most of the popup windows for FCKeditor (ie add a url etc..). Internet Explorer 10 has the same problems plus when you switch the post mode to Advanced Editor in a story it will usually freeze up the text window. There are ways around this but it requires you either switch the IE browser into compatibility mode or adding to the header template: Because of these issues and the fact that there are no more planed updates for the FCKeditor we plan on most likely switching to the CKeditor for Geeklog 2.0.1. More reading on this can be found here: http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1420 Tom From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sun Mar 17 20:43:40 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:43:40 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ad01ce2371$a26dbb20$e7493160$@cogeco.net> Hey Dirk, I am not sure at the moment as I am still trying to figure out my summer but it still doesn't mean we can't hammer out a few ideas... The only things I can think of at the moment that are easier would be a comments admin form and maybe an updated blocks admin form that merges the regular and dynamic blocks tables. I doubt there would be a summers worth of work there though. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: March-17-13 1:35 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2013 The application period for mentoring organisations for GSoC 2013 starts tomorrow. Do we still want to participate? If so, we would need: - a good ideas list - a backup admin - (soon) more mentors Our ideas list could certainly do with some more love and maybe another project idea or two. Specifically, we don't seem to have a project with a difficulty level less than "medium". We don't always need to provide such long project descriptions like for the ones we already have. If you have a look at, for example, the ideas list of KDE[1], they are often much shorter (as long as the goal is clear). So, where do we stand? bye, Dirk [1] http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From danstoner at gmail.com Mon Mar 18 08:30:25 2013 From: danstoner at gmail.com (Dan Stoner) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:30:25 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 and FCKeditor In-Reply-To: <00ac01ce236f$b6d8da10$248a8e30$@cogeco.net> References: <00ac01ce236f$b6d8da10$248a8e30$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: For those wondering about the differences between the two... http://superuser.com/questions/230237/differences-between-fckeditor-and-ckeditor - Dan Stoner On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Tom wrote: > We are starting to have problems with the FCKeditor (updated in Geeklog to > version 2.6.9) with the newer versions of Internet Explorer. IE 9 seems to > have problems with most of the popup windows for FCKeditor (ie add a url > etc..). Internet Explorer 10 has the same problems plus when you switch the > post mode to Advanced Editor in a story it will usually freeze up the text > window. > > There are ways around this but it requires you either switch the IE browser > into compatibility mode or adding to the header template: > > > > Because of these issues and the fact that there are no more planed updates > for the FCKeditor we plan on most likely switching to the CKeditor for > Geeklog 2.0.1. > > More reading on this can be found here: > http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1420 > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Mar 20 16:00:18 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:00:18 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI: We have submitted an application for Geeklog to participate in GSoC 2013. Keep your fingers crossed until April 8, when the selected orgs are to be announced. Until then, there's still time to work on our ideas list: http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code I think we could still use another project idea or two there. If you only have a vague idea, list it on the "GSoC Brainstorming" page, please. You could also help us by checking for broken links or outdated information on all of these pages. I tweaked a few pages already but may have missed some things. And of course we're still looking for a few mentors and backup mentors. If you know your way around Geeklog and even a bit about the code, then we want YOU as a mentor :) bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Mon Mar 25 11:24:31 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:24:31 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog and Search Engines Message-ID: <02b801ce296c$dbec0d10$93c42730$@cogeco.net> I have noticed a few links in the Google search result that point to my site like so: www.mysite.com/index.php/blog/ Now I don't have url rewriting enabled (not that it matters as it does the same thing either way) and no blog directory. I am wondering if we should try to check for things like this as it is not a good idea to produce duplicate content for the search engines. We use canonical links for things like articles to get around these issues but it doesn't really work for the homepage. Any ideas or suggestions? Tom From websitemaster at cogeco.net Tue Mar 26 17:11:25 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:11:25 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 Message-ID: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> I plan on releasing the final version of Geeklog 2.0.0 this Friday or Saturday. If there are any objections let me know? Thanks Tom From taharaxp at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 10:24:15 2013 From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:24:15 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: I am looking forward to the early release of Geeklog 2.0.0. -- Yoshinori Tahara - dengen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Mar 27 11:46:25 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:46:25 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> Quoting Tom : > I plan on releasing the final version of Geeklog 2.0.0 this Friday or > Saturday. > > If there are any objections let me know? No objections from me for sure - let's get this thing released, finally. It's a pity, though, that we didn't get much in terms of translations (only Japanese and my measly bits of German). Any ideas how we could encourage more (and timely) translations in the future? bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Fri Mar 29 11:18:05 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:18:05 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> Message-ID: <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> >> No objections from me for sure - let's get this thing released, finally. I was just about to release it and I checked the forum and notice this issue reported (double sigh): http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?msg=1&showtopic=94844&lastpost=tr ue#94857 I added this bug report: http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1574 A staticpage assigned to the Homepage cannot be viewed or searched for by users other than the owner. All topic staticpages are also not returned in search results for any user except the owner. 1) The first question we need to ask is should a staticpage assigned to the homepage be viewable as a standard staticpage? Right now Geeklog has 3 topic states: Homepage, All Topics and one Topic. When you go to view a homepage staticpage obviously you can't as you are not on the homepage anymore. This was really meant more for the use of staticpage with centerblocks. My vote would be it is not viewable as a standard staticpage because if it is, it opens up some other issues. 2) Depending on what the answer to question 1 is will dictate if a homepage centerblock staticpage is searchable 3) Currently All topic staticpages can only be searched for if All Topics is selected in the search form (along with any statucpage assigned to a particular topic). If you have an individual topic selected then none assigned to all topics will ever be returned. I realize this doesn't make sense and was fixing the code to allow for all topic staticpages to be returned along with the particular topic selected (along with the staticpage comments). I have to think on this a bit now though. All Topics is not language specific ... will this affect things for sites that have language specific topics? I guess the release is off at the moment while we think on this and solve these couple of issues. Let me know what you guys think Tom From vfuria at gmail.com Fri Mar 29 11:54:39 2013 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:54:39 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: Perhaps the first question we should ask is: is this worth delaying the release for? On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Tom wrote: > >> No objections from me for sure - let's get this thing released, finally. > > I was just about to release it and I checked the forum and notice this > issue > reported (double sigh): > > > http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?msg=1&showtopic=94844&lastpost=tr > ue#94857 > > I added this bug report: > > http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1574 > > A staticpage assigned to the Homepage cannot be viewed or searched for by > users other than the owner. > > All topic staticpages are also not returned in search results for any user > except the owner. > > > > 1) The first question we need to ask is should a staticpage assigned to the > homepage be viewable as a standard staticpage? > > Right now Geeklog has 3 topic states: Homepage, All Topics and one Topic. > When you go to view a homepage staticpage obviously you can't as you are > not on the homepage anymore. This was really meant more for the use of > staticpage with centerblocks. My vote would be it is not viewable as a > standard staticpage because if it is, it opens up some other issues. > > 2) Depending on what the answer to question 1 is will dictate if a homepage > centerblock staticpage is searchable > > 3) Currently All topic staticpages can only be searched for if All Topics > is > selected in the search form (along with any statucpage assigned to a > particular topic). If you have an individual topic selected then none > assigned to all topics will ever be returned. > > I realize this doesn't make sense and was fixing the code to allow for all > topic staticpages to be returned along with the particular topic selected > (along with the staticpage comments). I have to think on this a bit now > though. All Topics is not language specific ... will this affect things > for > sites that have language specific topics? > > > I guess the release is off at the moment while we think on this and solve > these couple of issues. > > Let me know what you guys think > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Mar 29 12:30:01 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:30:01 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> Tom wrote: > A staticpage assigned to the Homepage cannot be viewed or searched for by > users other than the owner. Regarding the search, I'd consider this a feature. These pages are often used to make content "stick" or for little tricks with the layout or for injecting ads etc. In other words, it usually doesn't make a lot of sense to display those on their own. > All topic staticpages are also not returned in search results for any user > except the owner. Same here, I'd say. You should of course be able to call them up with their full URL, but that appears to be a less important problem under the above assumptions. I think Vinny asked the right question: > Perhaps the first question we should ask is: is this worth delaying the release for? In my opinion, the answer is "no". bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Mar 29 15:26:23 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:26:23 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay, time's up - the org application for GSoC 2013 is now closed. We've got ours in, in case you were wondering ;-) Carol & crew at Google will now review the applications (in fact, she just confirmed on IRC that she's working on it right now), which also means that they could be visiting our GSoC ideas page on the wiki any time between now and April 8. So I would appreciate it if people could refrain from messing up that page ;-) Also, please keep an eye on the wiki in general (the wiki being reachable), as there have been cases of orgs not being accepted due to their ideas pages not being accessible for longer periods of time. Dan has set up monitoring for the wiki (thanks!) - let's hope it won't have anything to report. And until April 8, keep your fingers crossed. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Fri Mar 29 17:38:14 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:38:14 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <051b01ce2cc5$b7ce4090$276ac1b0$@cogeco.net> >> You should of course be able to call them up with their full URL You can. >> In my opinion, the answer is "no". Okay, I will go ahead with the release tomorrow then. >> Regarding the search, I'd consider this a feature. These pages are often used to make content "stick" or for little tricks with the layout or for injecting ads etc. In other words, it usually doesn't make a lot of sense to display those on their own. I tend to agree. In most cases with a staticpage appearing on the homepage, you wouldn't want it displaying elsewhere on its own (especially since it will have its own conical link as well). Okay I will amend the bug (unless we hear from others) to just fix the searching of all topics and target it for 2.0.1 Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: March-29-13 12:30 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 Tom wrote: > A staticpage assigned to the Homepage cannot be viewed or searched for > by users other than the owner. Regarding the search, I'd consider this a feature. These pages are often used to make content "stick" or for little tricks with the layout or for injecting ads etc. In other words, it usually doesn't make a lot of sense to display those on their own. > All topic staticpages are also not returned in search results for any > user except the owner. Same here, I'd say. You should of course be able to call them up with their full URL, but that appears to be a less important problem under the above assumptions. I think Vinny asked the right question: > Perhaps the first question we should ask is: is this worth delaying the release for? In my opinion, the answer is "no". bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Mar 29 17:50:48 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:50:48 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <051b01ce2cc5$b7ce4090$276ac1b0$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> <051b01ce2cc5$b7ce4090$276ac1b0$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: Tom wrote: >>> You should of course be able to call them up with their full URL > > You can. I did a quick test and couldn't, at least not as an anonymous user. Which is obviously a bug - if it displays the page to you on the homepage, why will it not display it when using the full URL? bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ From websitemaster at cogeco.net Fri Mar 29 20:22:49 2013 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:22:49 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> <051b01ce2cc5$b7ce4090$276ac1b0$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: <051f01ce2cdc$b5a304b0$20e90e10$@cogeco.net> I thought you were referring to an All Topics staticpage in your original email. It doesn't work because technically the staticpage url is not the homepage. We can of course change this... Should we still go through with the release tomorrow or did you want to see this fixed first? Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: March-29-13 5:51 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 Tom wrote: >>> You should of course be able to call them up with their full URL > > You can. I did a quick test and couldn't, at least not as an anonymous user. Which is obviously a bug - if it displays the page to you on the homepage, why will it not display it when using the full URL? bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Mar 30 03:45:32 2013 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:45:32 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.0.0 In-Reply-To: <051f01ce2cdc$b5a304b0$20e90e10$@cogeco.net> References: <03c701ce2a66$79ac0330$6d040990$@cogeco.net> <20130327164625.Horde.XBksYbuWis5RUxRROxy3LZA@webmail.df.eu> <04f301ce2c90$9c6599a0$d530cce0$@cogeco.net> <8AB3FB7B-636F-4169-AAA9-F4AA7D063B67@haun-online.de> <051b01ce2cc5$b7ce4090$276ac1b0$@cogeco.net> <051f01ce2cdc$b5a304b0$20e90e10$@cogeco.net> Message-ID: Tom wrote: > Should we still go through with the release tomorrow or did you want to see > this fixed first? I'd say lets release it. The static pages work for what they were designed for. The bugs are only minor nuisances. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/