From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Jan  1 04:02:24 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 10:02:24 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.1.0 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <004501cf0679$c9b733f0$5d259bd0$@cogeco.net>
References: <00b001ceecf9$aad80a20$00881e60$@cogeco.net>
	<37C52C42-5C98-48BE-A546-76D2A0F466A0@haun-online.de>
	<004501cf0679$c9b733f0$5d259bd0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <6CEE48BB-0EEE-4737-A0AE-827A128D03B9@haun-online.de>

Tom wrote:

> $LANG_ENVCHECK is used by the new Hosting Environment Check page
> (/admin/envcheck.php) and is found in both English language files. It
> shouldn't be dropped or filtered out.

Just goes to show how far out of the loop I am :)

$LANG_ENVCHECK was missing from the "lm" script. I've added it and reran the script, so it should be in all language files now.

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Jan  1 04:05:56 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 10:05:56 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.1.0 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <53390.203.189.105.202.1388530053.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <00b001ceecf9$aad80a20$00881e60$@cogeco.net>
	<37C52C42-5C98-48BE-A546-76D2A0F466A0@haun-online.de>
	<53390.203.189.105.202.1388530053.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <67D267D0-9D68-4797-84B8-4A162BD4567F@haun-online.de>

Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> As for $LANG_ENVCHECK array, it IS found in english.php, english_utf-8.php
> and japanese_utf-8.php.  Maybe the other language files are not synced?  I
> hope other cosmetic things will be changed.

I submitted the changes to the Japanese language file as a separate commit:

http://project.geeklog.net/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/geeklog/rev/e6ddf3588567
(well, that's obviously using the wrong encoding)

I do believe these are only cosmetic changes, i.e. changes to the formatting of the source code. Please let me know if anything else is wrong. Thanks.

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Wed Jan  1 04:17:35 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 18:17:35 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 2.1.0 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <67D267D0-9D68-4797-84B8-4A162BD4567F@haun-online.de>
References: <00b001ceecf9$aad80a20$00881e60$@cogeco.net>
	<37C52C42-5C98-48BE-A546-76D2A0F466A0@haun-online.de>
	<53390.203.189.105.202.1388530053.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<67D267D0-9D68-4797-84B8-4A162BD4567F@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <34732.203.189.105.202.1388567855.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

> I submitted the changes to the Japanese language file as a separate
> commit:
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/geeklog/rev/e6ddf3588567
> (well, that's obviously using the wrong encoding)
>
> I do believe these are only cosmetic changes, i.e. changes to the
> formatting of the source code. Please let me know if anything else is
> wrong. Thanks.

Everything is all right, I believe.  Thanks for a quick fix.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Thu Jan  2 05:36:27 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 19:36:27 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
Message-ID: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Hi all, I know Geeklog-2.1.0 beta or release candidate is about to come
out, but I would like to integrate Filemanager[*1], a GUI image browser,
into Geeklog, since CKEditor shipped with GL-2.1.0 lacks one.  Or should I
wait until after GL-2.1.0 is released?  Any thoughts?

[*1] https://github.com/simogeo/Filemanager
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/





From taharaxp at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 10:48:59 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 00:48:59 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <CAEhBJidivWW9Dj8p45zZu2APBLjiKoqFDuSOjHW9Wn5SgespQw@mail.gmail.com>

It's cool for me.
There is also KCFinder as select another.

http://kcfinder.sunhater.com/

Either way, I agree that to integrate the file manager to Geeklog.

-- 
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Thu Jan  2 11:28:45 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:28:45 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>

You could start working on it now and create a separate branch in the
Geeklog Repository for it that we can integrate later (either into 2.1.0 or
a later version). If there are not to many changes we can see about adding
it in for Geeklog 2.1.0 but I guess it depends on when the actual release
happens and when you finish up.

A few questions/thoughts

- Is this the File Manager we want to use? I have not looked into any
others.
- Can we try to make the File Manager easy to plugin and switch if wanted
(like how the advance editor works) or is this not easy or worth doing?
- Should we get it to work with the FCKEditor as well?
- The MIT license is compatible with our licence correct?
- Geeklogs jQuery version is 1.10.2. It looks like the File Manager may need
the migrate plugin. If so this should probably be setup through the scripts
class in case other Geeklog plugins need the migrate plugin as well.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-02-14 5:36 AM
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Hi all, I know Geeklog-2.1.0 beta or release candidate is about to come out,
but I would like to integrate Filemanager[*1], a GUI image browser, into
Geeklog, since CKEditor shipped with GL-2.1.0 lacks one.  Or should I wait
until after GL-2.1.0 is released?  Any thoughts?

[*1] https://github.com/simogeo/Filemanager
--
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http://mystral-kk.net/



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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Jan  2 11:45:51 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 17:45:51 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <E82D8DD7-6BEB-4886-9423-9B97468AEDBD@haun-online.de>

Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> - The MIT license is compatible with our licence correct?

It is. In fact, jQuery is under the MIT licence as well.

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Jan  2 13:42:01 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 19:42:01 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] https://www.geeklog.net/
Message-ID: <943EB69B-CA50-4AD3-BFC9-3F2DD579FE1A@haun-online.de>

Please read that subject line again carefully - yes, geeklog.net is now finally running over https

We've talked about this before, with Geeklog being "The secure CMS" and all that, and I've decided the new year would be a good time to finally make that switch.

A nice surprise: I was willing to pay for the certificate out of our sponsor money, but pair.com decided to sponsor it. Thank you!

The certificate is of the "basic" variety and valid for 2 years. So we've got until the end of next year to decide what we want to do after that.

All old http: links should automatically redirect to https: There are probably still quite a few hard-coded http: links all over the place - we may want to consider doing a site migration on the next site update to get rid of those.

In the meantime, if you find any non-working links or pages where your browser warns you about a mix of secure and insecure content (usually because of images that use http: links), let me know.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.themobilepresenter.com/



From danstoner at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 14:11:21 2014
From: danstoner at gmail.com (Dan Stoner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:11:21 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] https://www.geeklog.net/
In-Reply-To: <943EB69B-CA50-4AD3-BFC9-3F2DD579FE1A@haun-online.de>
References: <943EB69B-CA50-4AD3-BFC9-3F2DD579FE1A@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CADKwgJfVu5aRUXzV06nU7rk1za3v1D9n3=21s_EcZfq521q32A@mail.gmail.com>

Can the http vs https be handled via a rewrite rule at the webserver level?

(e.g. in apache via mod_rewrite in .htaccess)

 - Dan Stoner


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Please read that subject line again carefully - yes, geeklog.net is now finally running over https
>
> We've talked about this before, with Geeklog being "The secure CMS" and all that, and I've decided the new year would be a good time to finally make that switch.
>
> A nice surprise: I was willing to pay for the certificate out of our sponsor money, but pair.com decided to sponsor it. Thank you!
>
> The certificate is of the "basic" variety and valid for 2 years. So we've got until the end of next year to decide what we want to do after that.
>
> All old http: links should automatically redirect to https: There are probably still quite a few hard-coded http: links all over the place - we may want to consider doing a site migration on the next site update to get rid of those.
>
> In the meantime, if you find any non-working links or pages where your browser warns you about a mix of secure and insecure content (usually because of images that use http: links), let me know.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Jan  2 15:12:12 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:12:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] https://www.geeklog.net/
In-Reply-To: <CADKwgJfVu5aRUXzV06nU7rk1za3v1D9n3=21s_EcZfq521q32A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <943EB69B-CA50-4AD3-BFC9-3F2DD579FE1A@haun-online.de>
	<CADKwgJfVu5aRUXzV06nU7rk1za3v1D9n3=21s_EcZfq521q32A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AAD51818-EBD9-46E3-ADE9-4F5D9BCA1EEE@haun-online.de>

Dan Stoner <danstoner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can the http vs https be handled via a rewrite rule at the webserver level?


It already does that - otherwise, all the external links pointing to geeklog.net wouldn't work. But it causes an extra HTTP request for each of those, so I think we should at least fix the links under our control. Namely those in the geeklog.net database.

bye, Dirk


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From danstoner at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 16:17:48 2014
From: danstoner at gmail.com (Dan Stoner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:17:48 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] https://www.geeklog.net/
In-Reply-To: <AAD51818-EBD9-46E3-ADE9-4F5D9BCA1EEE@haun-online.de>
References: <943EB69B-CA50-4AD3-BFC9-3F2DD579FE1A@haun-online.de>
	<CADKwgJfVu5aRUXzV06nU7rk1za3v1D9n3=21s_EcZfq521q32A@mail.gmail.com>
	<AAD51818-EBD9-46E3-ADE9-4F5D9BCA1EEE@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CADKwgJc_chZgYJ=sxd9bMSLjW+i3844NLvXK=796Li5WC=Y2cA@mail.gmail.com>

yes, agreed.

HTTPS is great.  Thanks for this work.

- Dan Stoner


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Dan Stoner <danstoner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can the http vs https be handled via a rewrite rule at the webserver level?
>
>
> It already does that - otherwise, all the external links pointing to geeklog.net wouldn't work. But it causes an extra HTTP request for each of those, so I think we should at least fix the links under our control. Namely those in the geeklog.net database.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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>
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Thu Jan  2 18:37:26 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:37:26 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <57158.203.189.105.202.1388705846.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> You could start working on it now and create a separate branch in the
> Geeklog Repository for it that we can integrate later (either into 2.1.0
> or a later version). If there are not to many changes we can see about
> adding it in for Geeklog 2.1.0 but I guess it depends on when the actual
> release happens and when you finish up.

Filemanager is working now with CKEditor on my PC and my website.

> A few questions/thoughts
>
> - Is this the File Manager we want to use? I have not looked into any
> others.

Free file browsers I know include Filemanager, KCFinder, and elFinder. 
Filemanager is mature and is being developed now, while the other two seem
to stop developing.  If you know other options, please tell us.

> - Can we try to make the File Manager easy to plugin and switch if wanted
> (like how the advance editor works) or is this not easy or worth doing?

I don't think it necessary to make Filemanager a Geeklog plugin, but it is
easy to enable/disable and/or do access control over it.

> - Should we get it to work with the FCKEditor as well?

I am not sure.  If it is necessary to do so, Filemanager can be made to
work with FCKeditor and/or tinyMCE, though.

> - The MIT license is compatible with our licence correct?

As Dirk said, it is compatible with GLPv2.

> - Geeklogs jQuery version is 1.10.2. It looks like the File Manager may
> need the migrate plugin. If so this should probably be setup through
> the scripts class in case other Geeklog plugins need the migrate plugin
> as well.

Filemanager is originally implemented as an HTML file and I changed it
into a PHP file to add access control and dynamic configuration.  So I
don't use Geeklog template engine or COM_createHTMLDocument().  Thus, I
use jQuery-1.8.3 shipped with Filemanager.
--
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Thu Jan  2 18:53:13 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:53:13 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
Message-ID: <43708.203.189.105.202.1388706793.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

With changeset 8830d7f56f75, I changed $LANG_configselects['Core'] in
english.php, english_utf-8.php and japanese_utf-8.php and it caused an
error.  Should I change all the other language files manually or is there
an automagical way?
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Jan  3 03:41:41 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:41:41 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
In-Reply-To: <43708.203.189.105.202.1388706793.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <43708.203.189.105.202.1388706793.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <9A223075-AF4D-4ED4-8A7B-9AC1293E8271@haun-online.de>

Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> With changeset 8830d7f56f75, I changed $LANG_configselects['Core'] in
> english.php, english_utf-8.php and japanese_utf-8.php and it caused an
> error.  Should I change all the other language files manually or is there
> an automagical way?

I just ran the script to update the language files and committed the changes. That should fix it.

I was thinking about setting this up as an automated process but I'm somewhat reluctant since it would require changes to be committed automatically. What do the others think?

bye, Dirk


-- 
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Jan  3 03:58:33 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:58:33 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
In-Reply-To: <9A223075-AF4D-4ED4-8A7B-9AC1293E8271@haun-online.de>
References: <43708.203.189.105.202.1388706793.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<9A223075-AF4D-4ED4-8A7B-9AC1293E8271@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <445DECEE-43DA-475A-98F1-E69263B12C4F@haun-online.de>

> I just ran the script to update the language files and committed the changes. That should fix it.


Or maybe not. The script only added the wikitext entry to $LANG_postmodes but not to $LANG_configselects.

I guess the script should be able to figure this out. I'll have a look.

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Fri Jan  3 04:26:33 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:26:33 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
In-Reply-To: <9A223075-AF4D-4ED4-8A7B-9AC1293E8271@haun-online.de>
References: <43708.203.189.105.202.1388706793.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<9A223075-AF4D-4ED4-8A7B-9AC1293E8271@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <36377.203.189.105.202.1388741193.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

>> With changeset 8830d7f56f75, I changed $LANG_configselects['Core'] in
>> english.php, english_utf-8.php and japanese_utf-8.php and it caused an
>> error.  Should I change all the other language files manually or is
>> there
>> an automagical way?
>
> I just ran the script to update the language files and committed the
> changes. That should fix it.
>
> I was thinking about setting this up as an automated process but I'm
> somewhat reluctant since it would require changes to be committed
> automatically. What do the others think?

Thanks for fixing language files.  I don't like the idea that changes will
be committed automatically.  Rather, how about changing test-framework so
that language files will not be checked each time a language file is
committed.  Of course, language files have to be checked before a beta
version or a release candidate is out.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Fri Jan  3 07:14:05 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 21:14:05 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> You could start working on it now and create a separate branch in the
> Geeklog Repository for it that we can integrate later (either into 2.1.0
> or
> a later version). If there are not to many changes we can see about adding
> it in for Geeklog 2.1.0 but I guess it depends on when the actual release
> happens and when you finish up.

I created a "Filemanager" branch in the Geeklog repository.  Currently,
neither access control nor configuration is fully implemented.
--
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Jan  3 10:44:36 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:44:36 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <57158.203.189.105.202.1388705846.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57158.203.189.105.202.1388705846.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <013301cf089a$b4c8d480$1e5a7d80$@cogeco.net>

>> Filemanager is mature and is being developed now, while the other two
seem to stop developing.  If you know other options, please tell us.

Nope I know of no others. If it is still being developed and you feel it is
the best option then I do not have any problems (unless someone else has
another option)

>> I don't think it necessary to make Filemanager a Geeklog plugin, but it
is easy to enable/disable and/or do access control over it.

I didn't mean an actual Geeklog plugin. I am not sure how the file manager
is integrated (is it directly integrated into the editor or does Geeklog act
as a go between) but if possible make it like the editors and easy for
someone to add a different "File Manager" if they want. As I said this may
not be possible or worth doing...

>> I am not sure.  If it is necessary to do so, Filemanager can be made to
work with FCKeditor and/or tinyMCE, though.

You should maybe try to see if you can get it working with the FCKEditor as
I have a feeling that Geeklog 2.1.0 will be shipping with it. This way the
framework will be in place for the File Manger to be used by different
editors. (ie someone may update Geeklog with the tinyMCE editor and way want
to incorporate the File Manager we already have)

>>Filemanager is originally implemented as an HTML file and I changed it
into a PHP file to add access control and dynamic configuration.  So I don't
use Geeklog template engine or COM_createHTMLDocument().  Thus, I >> use
jQuery-1.8.3 shipped with Filemanager.

I hate to see 2 versions of jQuery ship with Geeklog but if it is the best
way to go then go ahead. Will the File Manager be fairly easy to upgrade
when a new version comes out?

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-02-14 6:37 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> You could start working on it now and create a separate branch in the 
> Geeklog Repository for it that we can integrate later (either into 
> 2.1.0 or a later version). If there are not to many changes we can see 
> about adding it in for Geeklog 2.1.0 but I guess it depends on when 
> the actual release happens and when you finish up.

Filemanager is working now with CKEditor on my PC and my website.

> A few questions/thoughts
>
> - Is this the File Manager we want to use? I have not looked into any 
> others.

Free file browsers I know include Filemanager, KCFinder, and elFinder. 
Filemanager is mature and is being developed now, while the other two seem
to stop developing.  If you know other options, please tell us.

> - Can we try to make the File Manager easy to plugin and switch if 
> wanted (like how the advance editor works) or is this not easy or worth
doing?

I don't think it necessary to make Filemanager a Geeklog plugin, but it is
easy to enable/disable and/or do access control over it.

> - Should we get it to work with the FCKEditor as well?

I am not sure.  If it is necessary to do so, Filemanager can be made to work
with FCKeditor and/or tinyMCE, though.

> - The MIT license is compatible with our licence correct?

As Dirk said, it is compatible with GLPv2.

> - Geeklogs jQuery version is 1.10.2. It looks like the File Manager 
> may need the migrate plugin. If so this should probably be setup 
> through the scripts class in case other Geeklog plugins need the 
> migrate plugin as well.

Filemanager is originally implemented as an HTML file and I changed it into
a PHP file to add access control and dynamic configuration.  So I don't use
Geeklog template engine or COM_createHTMLDocument().  Thus, I use
jQuery-1.8.3 shipped with Filemanager.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Jan  3 11:58:14 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:58:14 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
In-Reply-To: <445DECEE-43DA-475A-98F1-E69263B12C4F@haun-online.de>
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> I guess the script should be able to figure this out. I'll have a look.

I've updated the "lm" script to handle this. I see Kenji already updated the language files manually, but the updated script found a few more entries in other places.

For example, $LANG_configselects['Core'][24] gained a 'login' entry at some point which was missing from most language files. Plus the Italian language files for the Links and Calendar plugins where also missing entries for some reason.

Which just goes to show that it's usually a good idea to let a machine handle these sorts of things :)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Jan  3 12:09:39 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:09:39 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
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Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> Rather, how about changing test-framework so
> that language files will not be checked each time a language file is
> committed.  Of course, language files have to be checked before a beta
> version or a release candidate is out.

In my experience, it's better to alert people of test failures as a result of their code changes asap so that they can still remember what it was they changed (and why).

If automating the updates is not an option, then we need to make it easier to update the language files, so that everybody who makes a change in english.php can then easily update the others.

The "lm" script itself is written in PHP, so it should run everywhere. It has to be called once for each language and for each plugin plus the Core, though, for which I wrote a Bash script. I could try to use something more portable for that part, e.g. Phing.

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Fri Jan  3 18:29:59 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:29:59 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
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Tom wrote:

>>> I don't think it necessary to make Filemanager a Geeklog plugin, but it
> is easy to enable/disable and/or do access control over it.
>
> I didn't mean an actual Geeklog plugin. I am not sure how the file manager
> is integrated (is it directly integrated into the editor or does Geeklog
> act as a go between) but if possible make it like the editors and easy for
> someone to add a different "File Manager" if they want. As I said this may
> not be possible or worth doing...

Filemanager is independent of any WYSIWYG editor.  When I integrated it
with CKEditor, I changed just one file,
/public_html/editors/ckeditor/config.js.  It would be as easy to integrate
other file managers like KCFinder.

>>> I am not sure.  If it is necessary to do so, Filemanager can be made to
> work with FCKeditor and/or tinyMCE, though.
>
> You should maybe try to see if you can get it working with the FCKEditor
> as I have a feeling that Geeklog 2.1.0 will be shipping with it. This way
> the framework will be in place for the File Manger to be used by different
> editors. (ie someone may update Geeklog with the tinyMCE editor and way
> want to incorporate the File Manager we already have)

As I said above, it would be easy to make Filemanager work with FCKeditor.
 I will work on it.

>>>Filemanager is originally implemented as an HTML file and I changed it
> into a PHP file to add access control and dynamic configuration.  So I
> don't use Geeklog template engine or COM_createHTMLDocument().  Thus, I
>> use jQuery-1.8.3 shipped with Filemanager.
>
> I hate to see 2 versions of jQuery ship with Geeklog but if it is the best
> way to go then go ahead. Will the File Manager be fairly easy to upgrade
> when a new version comes out?

Well, it is fairly easy to upgrade Filemanager.  I haven't changed any
code in any file of Filemanager.  I just created one PHP file from an HTML
file and changed one CKeditor configuration file.
--
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http://mystral-kk.net/




From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Fri Jan  3 18:37:23 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:37:23 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] test-framework - Build # 881 - Failure
In-Reply-To: <8E0E71B3-3284-430E-9D17-A421E7C770F0@haun-online.de>
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Dirk wrote:

>> Rather, how about changing test-framework so
>> that language files will not be checked each time a language file is
>> committed.  Of course, language files have to be checked before a beta
>> version or a release candidate is out.
>
> In my experience, it's better to alert people of test failures as a result
> of their code changes asap so that they can still remember what it was
> they changed (and why).
>
> If automating the updates is not an option, then we need to make it easier
> to update the language files, so that everybody who makes a change in
> english.php can then easily update the others.

I couldn't agree more.  All I wanted to say is I don't like an implicit
commit being made to the Geeklog repository.

> The "lm" script itself is written in PHP, so it should run everywhere. It
> has to be called once for each language and for each plugin plus the Core,
> though, for which I wrote a Bash script. I could try to use something more
> portable for that part, e.g. Phing.

Could you rewrite the Bash script in PHP so I can run it on my Windows PC?
-- 
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http://mystral-kk.net/




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan  4 11:01:17 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 11:01:17 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
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How will access control work? Are you planning to add a filemanager.admin
right and enable it for the Story and Staticpage Admin groups?

I am also wondering if the user has access we could allow them to launch it
directly from the Control Panel under the tools section?

Thoughts

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-03-14 7:14 AM
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> You could start working on it now and create a separate branch in the 
> Geeklog Repository for it that we can integrate later (either into 
> 2.1.0 or a later version). If there are not to many changes we can see 
> about adding it in for Geeklog 2.1.0 but I guess it depends on when 
> the actual release happens and when you finish up.

I created a "Filemanager" branch in the Geeklog repository.  Currently,
neither access control nor configuration is fully implemented.
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From taharaxp at gmail.com  Sat Jan  4 15:50:42 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 05:50:42 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
Message-ID: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I want to add a new feature that handle the Ajax request into Geeklog.
I think Ajax is effective to solve a bug #0001543.

http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1543

In order to achieve this, I want to minor modifications of lib-common.php
and add new files,
/javascript/ajax_parts.js
/system/lib-ajax.php

This fix is so small, so I believe there is no problem even if committed to
the HEAD of the repository.
If there is any problem, then I will revert immediately.
Or, should I create a new branch?

Thanks

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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan  4 18:01:53 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 08:01:53 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
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Tom wrote:

> How will access control work? Are you planning to add a filemanager.admin
> right and enable it for the Story and Staticpage Admin groups?

I will add a filemanager.admin for the Story and Staticpage Admin groups.

> I am also wondering if the user has access we could allow them to launch
> it directly from the Control Panel under the tools section?

Unlike the filemanager shipped with FCKeditor, it is easy to launch the
Filemanager directly from the control panel, since it is independent of
any WYSIWYG editor.
--
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan  4 18:12:05 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 08:12:05 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yoshinori wrote:

> I want to add a new feature that handle the Ajax request into Geeklog.
> I think Ajax is effective to solve a bug #0001543.
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1543

I don't fully agree.  The same can be done with PHP.

> In order to achieve this, I want to minor modifications of lib-common.php
> and add new files,
> /javascript/ajax_parts.js
> /system/lib-ajax.php

Since JavaScript is controlled by the scripts class in
"scripts.class.php", why don't you add a new method to the class? For
example:

public function ajax($url, $method = 'GET', $parameters = array())

> This fix is so small, so I believe there is no problem even if committed
> to the HEAD of the repository.
> If there is any problem, then I will revert immediately.
> Or, should I create a new branch?

I believe there will be no problem, too.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan  4 19:20:14 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 19:20:14 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
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>> Unlike the filemanager shipped with FCKeditor, it is easy to launch the
Filemanager directly from the control panel, since it is independent of any
WYSIWYG editor.

Did you want to add it in then? I think it would be a good tool for the
admins.

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-04-14 6:02 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> How will access control work? Are you planning to add a 
> filemanager.admin right and enable it for the Story and Staticpage Admin
groups?

I will add a filemanager.admin for the Story and Staticpage Admin groups.

> I am also wondering if the user has access we could allow them to 
> launch it directly from the Control Panel under the tools section?

Unlike the filemanager shipped with FCKeditor, it is easy to launch the
Filemanager directly from the control panel, since it is independent of any
WYSIWYG editor.
--
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan  4 19:25:20 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 09:25:20 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <019901cf09ab$e7b8f6b0$b72ae410$@cogeco.net>
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Tom wrote:

>>> Unlike the filemanager shipped with FCKeditor, it is easy to launch the
> Filemanager directly from the control panel, since it is independent of
> any
> WYSIWYG editor.
>
> Did you want to add it in then? I think it would be a good tool for the
> admins.

Yes.  I am going to add a link to launch the Filemanager to the Control
Panel, too.
--
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan  4 19:31:06 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 19:31:06 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <45390.203.189.105.202.1388877125.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
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Message-ID: <019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>

I like Kenji idea about adding an ajax function to the scripts class. This
way other plugins etc... will be able to use it.

We might as well add in the Filemanager and your new feature/bug fix to
Geeklog 2.1.0. I haven't finished up my bug list yet (I've gotten side track
by work) and so it is probably another week or 2 until our first release.

If anyone has a chance can they take a look at 

http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1715

Thanks

Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-04-14 6:12 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request

Yoshinori wrote:

> I want to add a new feature that handle the Ajax request into Geeklog.
> I think Ajax is effective to solve a bug #0001543.
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1543

I don't fully agree.  The same can be done with PHP.

> In order to achieve this, I want to minor modifications of 
> lib-common.php and add new files, /javascript/ajax_parts.js 
> /system/lib-ajax.php

Since JavaScript is controlled by the scripts class in "scripts.class.php",
why don't you add a new method to the class? For
example:

public function ajax($url, $method = 'GET', $parameters = array())

> This fix is so small, so I believe there is no problem even if 
> committed to the HEAD of the repository.
> If there is any problem, then I will revert immediately.
> Or, should I create a new branch?

I believe there will be no problem, too.
--
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http://mystral-kk.net/


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From taharaxp at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 01:34:28 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:34:28 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>
References: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Kenji wrote:

> The same can be done with PHP.

Yeah, I know.
By using this problem, I wish to get the opportunity to add Ajax feature
into Geeklog.
In addition, I thought that a case to use Ajax was more better.

> Since JavaScript is controlled by the scripts class in
> "scripts.class.php", why don't you add a new method to the class? For
> example:
>
> public function ajax($url, $method = 'GET', $parameters = array())

Thanks for the appropriate indications.
I'll get to work on it sooner.
At any rate, I think that a discussion is necessary to decide
specifications.

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From taharaxp at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 01:37:08 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:37:08 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
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Tom,

Actually, I suggest modification of COM_startBlock function in relation to
this discussion.
Currently, a JavaScript code is embedded in the COM_startBlock function.
The reason is because to be embedded the values of $LANG32[60] and
$_CONF['theme'] in the JavaScript code.
Since this function embeds div elements in a head element of a HTML
document, it can not pass the W3C HTML validation.
And it is not elegant for me.

I want to move JavaScript code to an external file (e.g. ajax_parts.js).
Using Ajax, the values of $LANG32[60] and $_CONF['theme'] can be obtained
dynamically.

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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sun Jan  5 03:14:00 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:14:00 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <CAEhBJicDNS08DZ6WaE9As3EHWrRhmwmhJ26SGBV9xce+RHcOTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<45390.203.189.105.202.1388877125.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>
	<CAEhBJiejxWLWXi2Hpq=F-4kn86wsk5-dk4NVC17q+T6xEoJd5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEhBJicDNS08DZ6WaE9As3EHWrRhmwmhJ26SGBV9xce+RHcOTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52864.203.189.105.202.1388909640.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Yoshinori wrote:

> Actually, I suggest modification of COM_startBlock function in relation to
> this discussion.
> Currently, a JavaScript code is embedded in the COM_startBlock function.
> The reason is because to be embedded the values of $LANG32[60] and
> $_CONF['theme'] in the JavaScript code.
> Since this function embeds div elements in a head element of a HTML
> document, it can not pass the W3C HTML validation.
> And it is not elegant for me.
>
> I want to move JavaScript code to an external file (e.g. ajax_parts.js).
> Using Ajax, the values of $LANG32[60] and $_CONF['theme'] can be obtained
> dynamically.

It is too much to get language variables via Ajax.  Please have a look at
the getHeader method of scripts class (system/classes/scripts.class.php)
in which I created a global variable named geeklog to have access to some
Geeklog variables.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From taharaxp at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 03:31:25 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:31:25 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <52864.203.189.105.202.1388909640.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<45390.203.189.105.202.1388877125.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>
	<CAEhBJiejxWLWXi2Hpq=F-4kn86wsk5-dk4NVC17q+T6xEoJd5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEhBJicDNS08DZ6WaE9As3EHWrRhmwmhJ26SGBV9xce+RHcOTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<52864.203.189.105.202.1388909640.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <CAEhBJicD4=X=CVbL+W2-X=UsE3u+--5_ZwKSMPxuUFhbdXqu-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Kenji wrote:

> It is too much to get language variables via Ajax.  Please have a look at
> the getHeader method of scripts class (system/classes/scripts.class.php)
> in which I created a global variable named geeklog to have access to some
> Geeklog variables.

Even if getHeader method, it does not output the all language variables.
It is sufficient to get the language variable minimal as well.

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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sun Jan  5 04:22:48 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:22:48 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Add a new feature handle the Ajax request
In-Reply-To: <019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>
References: <CAEhBJif1BZ=Mtf3TtZEszrjttN5Jnz=-8RpRpwoE5b8z4vo8aQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<45390.203.189.105.202.1388877125.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<019a01cf09ad$6c087700$44196500$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <45342.203.189.105.202.1388913768.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> I like Kenji idea about adding an ajax function to the scripts class. This
> way other plugins etc... will be able to use it.
>
> We might as well add in the Filemanager and your new feature/bug fix to
> Geeklog 2.1.0. I haven't finished up my bug list yet (I've gotten side
> track
> by work) and so it is probably another week or 2 until our first release.
>
> If anyone has a chance can they take a look at
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1715

Fixed.  Plugin upload feature now rejects upload of a plugin that is
already installed, whether it is enabled or disabled.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Jan  5 04:31:01 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:31:01 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
	rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
Message-ID: <E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>

> description:
> Plugin upload feature now rejects upload of a plugin that is already installed (bug #0001715)

I must have missed that bug report. The change still lets you update plugins by uploading a new version, I assume?

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sun Jan  5 05:00:33 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:00:33 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
 rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
	<E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

>> description:
>> Plugin upload feature now rejects upload of a plugin that is already
>> installed (bug #0001715)
>
> I must have missed that bug report. The change still lets you update
> plugins by uploading a new version, I assume?

No.  A newer version doesn't overwrite the existing one, whether it is
enabled or disabled.  If a plugin is already uploaded but is not installed
yet, it will be overwritten, though.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Jan  5 05:22:37 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:22:37 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
	rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
	<E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
	<34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>

"Kenji ITO" <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> No.  A newer version doesn't overwrite the existing one, whether it is
> enabled or disabled.

That would be a step back, then. We implemented plugin upload so that people can install plugins from within Geeklog instead of having to fiddle about with files. That should include the option to upload newer plugin versions, i.e. updating already installed plugins.

Looking at bug #1715 again, it seems that the actual problem only happens when you upload the same version of a plugin that's already installed. So we should figure out a way to prevent that. Or maybe tell plugin authors to handle that case gracefully.

But I'd argue that this case is the exception anyway. We shouldn't disable a useful option (upgrading to a newer version) just because of this edge case.

In other words: In my opinion, the change should be reverted (and the bug reopened).

bye, Dirk


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http://www.themobilepresenter.com/



From cordiste at free.fr  Sun Jan  5 06:39:21 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 12:39:21 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
 rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
	<E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
	<34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdfKcB-57WV5-cjiDbz65ghnUZBZZdHfq6hRD4VZA-Bokg@mail.gmail.com>

I like the possibility to update plugins by the plugin upload feature,
so if we could keep this feature it will be nice.

Thanks,

Ben

2014/1/5 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> "Kenji ITO" <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:
>
>> No.  A newer version doesn't overwrite the existing one, whether it is
>> enabled or disabled.
>
> That would be a step back, then. We implemented plugin upload so that people can install plugins from within Geeklog instead of having to fiddle about with files. That should include the option to upload newer plugin versions, i.e. updating already installed plugins.
>
> Looking at bug #1715 again, it seems that the actual problem only happens when you upload the same version of a plugin that's already installed. So we should figure out a way to prevent that. Or maybe tell plugin authors to handle that case gracefully.
>
> But I'd argue that this case is the exception anyway. We shouldn't disable a useful option (upgrading to a newer version) just because of this edge case.
>
> In other words: In my opinion, the change should be reverted (and the bug reopened).
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sun Jan  5 06:44:08 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:44:08 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
 rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
	<E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
	<34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <43064.203.189.105.202.1388922248.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

>> No.  A newer version doesn't overwrite the existing one, whether it is
>> enabled or disabled.
>
> That would be a step back, then. We implemented plugin upload so that
> people can install plugins from within Geeklog instead of having to fiddle
> about with files. That should include the option to upload newer plugin
> versions, i.e. updating already installed plugins.
>
> Looking at bug #1715 again, it seems that the actual problem only happens
> when you upload the same version of a plugin that's already installed. So
> we should figure out a way to prevent that. Or maybe tell plugin authors
> to handle that case gracefully.
>
> But I'd argue that this case is the exception anyway. We shouldn't disable
> a useful option (upgrading to a newer version) just because of this edge
> case.
>
> In other words: In my opinion, the change should be reverted (and the bug
> reopened).

OK, I fixed the bug in a different way.  This bug happened as follows:

1. The Menu plugin is installed.
2. The user uploads the same plugin.  (The version doesn't matter.)
3. Geeklog disables the plugin, removes the files under data/plugin_name/
directory, upgrades the plugin and redirects to the plugin manager.
4. The Menu plugin expects the files under data/plugin_name/ directory are
left as they were and writes a file with an invalid path with
file_put_contents() function.
5. The error occurs.

Since it does little harm not to remove the files under data/plugin_name/
directory, I changed to skip the step.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net/




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Jan  5 09:26:36 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 09:26:36 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
Message-ID: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>

Hey Dirk,

Is there some sort of script for the comment headers in our code files that
we can run to update them?

Most of the file Geeklog version numbers are out of whack.



I am not worried about it for this release but it's something that needs to
be tidied out eventually.

If we have no script does anyone have any recommendations?

I also wonder what information really needs to be put here... Here is an
interesting discussion on the topic

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/134188/what-to-write-in-the-header-commen
ts-of-a-code-file

Tom







From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Jan  5 12:26:29 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:26:29 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-hg] geeklog: Plugin upload feature now
	rejects upload of a plugin th...
In-Reply-To: <43064.203.189.105.202.1388922248.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <hg.b7b53ec692fc.1388913588.1485632861@qs1489.pair.com>
	<E8ADD574-8704-43F0-87C0-187CEAD5C540@haun-online.de>
	<34910.203.189.105.202.1388916033.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<4FED3378-A137-4D59-905A-12552508A680@haun-online.de>
	<43064.203.189.105.202.1388922248.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <677C1B91-5FD0-4D21-A32B-20BDDBBF9076@haun-online.de>

Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> Since it does little harm not to remove the files under data/plugin_name/
> directory, I changed to skip the step.

Sounds good, thanks.

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Jan  5 12:42:12 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:42:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
In-Reply-To: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
References: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>

Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> Is there some sort of script for the comment headers in our code files that
> we can run to update them?

No. Or at least we don't have one.


> Most of the file Geeklog version numbers are out of whack.

If some file hasn't changed since the version stated in the header, then it shouldn't matter. But yeah, it is out of date for many.


> I also wonder what information really needs to be put here?

I'm not a lawyer, but we obviously need the licence there. It also makes sense to state the file name (in case it gets renamed or shows up elsewhere), a description of what it's for and that it's part of Geeklog. We could probably drop the version number altogether, though.

I guess we need the copyright line, which implies that we need a list of people holding that copyright, i.e. the authors. The author names are also horribly out of date (or just plain wrong) in many of our files, though. Email addresses, too (do we even need those?).

If you scroll to the end of the GPL text here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
you'll find instructions on how to best apply the licence to a file (that text is not part of the licence and hence not included in our copy under public_html/docs).

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Jan  5 13:15:10 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:15:10 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
In-Reply-To: <3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>
References: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
	<3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <01d401cf0a42$121132b0$36339810$@cogeco.net>

I see that Eclipse will apply header comments automatically. I guess at some
point I will have to look into it further.

I was hoping to drop the Geeklog version number and maybe make the copyright
holders something like the Geeklog Development Team. If not we could at
least drop the email addresses of the authors. I will have to check out what
other CMS's do and report back once this release is done.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: January-05-14 12:42 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers

Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> Is there some sort of script for the comment headers in our code files 
> that we can run to update them?

No. Or at least we don't have one.


> Most of the file Geeklog version numbers are out of whack.

If some file hasn't changed since the version stated in the header, then it
shouldn't matter. But yeah, it is out of date for many.


> I also wonder what information really needs to be put here.

I'm not a lawyer, but we obviously need the licence there. It also makes
sense to state the file name (in case it gets renamed or shows up
elsewhere), a description of what it's for and that it's part of Geeklog. We
could probably drop the version number altogether, though.

I guess we need the copyright line, which implies that we need a list of
people holding that copyright, i.e. the authors. The author names are also
horribly out of date (or just plain wrong) in many of our files, though.
Email addresses, too (do we even need those?).

If you scroll to the end of the GPL text here:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
you'll find instructions on how to best apply the licence to a file (that
text is not part of the licence and hence not included in our copy under
public_html/docs).

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Jan  5 14:27:12 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:27:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Source code documentation
Message-ID: <ABEBF640-1B62-4EB6-851E-FDF623F6277C@haun-online.de>

As you probably know, the Geeklog source code is run through phpDocumentor (again now - it was broken and therefore outdated for quite some time) every night. The result is published here:

http://project.geeklog.net/src/

This uses an old version of phpDocumentor which isn't supported any more. I'd like to move this process to Jenkins, so we can more easily see what's going on an get notifications if it breaks.

Which made me wonder if we should stick with that old phpDocumentor version or use something else. Here's a quick summary of the options:

There's a phpDocumentor version 2, which is really just what used to be called DocBlox now using the phpDocumentor name. In other words, it's an entirely different tool now. It's very configurable but I couldn't get it to work properly on our somewhat limited setup.

phpDox looks nice and is easy to install. But it's really made for code that's entirely OO. In Geeklog, we have a lot of non-OO code which simply won't show up in output generated by phpDox.

ApiGen could be an option. It's still somewhat OO-centric but at least lists all the non-OO functions. Here's the output for Geeklog's source code right now:

http://project.geeklog.net/src2/  (temp. location - may go away at any time)

The remaining alternative I haven't tried is doxygen. I've used this tool before, but for C source code. It does have some support for PHP but, unlike the others, is not really made with PHP in mind.


To summarize: I think our options (unless I missed some other alternatives) are to either stick with phpDocumentor 1.4.3 or switch to ApiGen.

Any preferences or comments?

bye, Dirk


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sun Jan  5 18:07:37 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:07:37 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Source code documentation
In-Reply-To: <ABEBF640-1B62-4EB6-851E-FDF623F6277C@haun-online.de>
References: <ABEBF640-1B62-4EB6-851E-FDF623F6277C@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <50718.203.189.105.202.1388963257.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

> As you probably know, the Geeklog source code is run through phpDocumentor
> (again now - it was broken and therefore outdated for quite some time)
> every night. The result is published here:
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/src/
>
> This uses an old version of phpDocumentor which isn't supported any more.
> I'd like to move this process to Jenkins, so we can more easily see what's
> going on an get notifications if it breaks.
>
> Which made me wonder if we should stick with that old phpDocumentor
> version or use something else. Here's a quick summary of the options:
>
> There's a phpDocumentor version 2, which is really just what used to be
> called DocBlox now using the phpDocumentor name. In other words, it's an
> entirely different tool now. It's very configurable but I couldn't get it
> to work properly on our somewhat limited setup.
>
> phpDox looks nice and is easy to install. But it's really made for code
> that's entirely OO. In Geeklog, we have a lot of non-OO code which simply
> won't show up in output generated by phpDox.
>
> ApiGen could be an option. It's still somewhat OO-centric but at least
> lists all the non-OO functions. Here's the output for Geeklog's source
> code right now:
>
> http://project.geeklog.net/src2/  (temp. location - may go away at any
> time)
>
> The remaining alternative I haven't tried is doxygen. I've used this tool
> before, but for C source code. It does have some support for PHP but,
> unlike the others, is not really made with PHP in mind.
>
>
> To summarize: I think our options (unless I missed some other
> alternatives) are to either stick with phpDocumentor 1.4.3 or switch to
> ApiGen.

I vote for ApiGen, which seems to give us a lot more useful information.
-- 
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http://mystral-kk.net/




From trinity93 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 19:18:29 2014
From: trinity93 at gmail.com (Trinity)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:18:29 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
In-Reply-To: <01d401cf0a42$121132b0$36339810$@cogeco.net>
References: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
	<3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>
	<01d401cf0a42$121132b0$36339810$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAMbXZiNoRcSFm4YzpnQBCr4ewc2HsHCMEqT-jVjoMTeCdJnWjQ@mail.gmail.com>

One possibility regarding copyrights would be to create a geekog foundation
that copyright assignment is made to. I would gladly assign any copyright
interest i might have in geeklog (i dont  even have much code in there, its
probably been replaced by now) to such a thing if it existed. Im not
interested in anything regarding copynight other than to say yes i worked
on geeklog to a HR person for employment or for bragging rights in a bar
full of techies hehe.

I do very little web dev anymore anyways.

Trinity Bays


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> I see that Eclipse will apply header comments automatically. I guess at
> some
> point I will have to look into it further.
>
> I was hoping to drop the Geeklog version number and maybe make the
> copyright
> holders something like the Geeklog Development Team. If not we could at
> least drop the email addresses of the authors. I will have to check out
> what
> other CMS's do and report back once this release is done.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
> Sent: January-05-14 12:42 PM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
>
> Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:
>
> > Is there some sort of script for the comment headers in our code files
> > that we can run to update them?
>
> No. Or at least we don't have one.
>
>
> > Most of the file Geeklog version numbers are out of whack.
>
> If some file hasn't changed since the version stated in the header, then it
> shouldn't matter. But yeah, it is out of date for many.
>
>
> > I also wonder what information really needs to be put here.
>
> I'm not a lawyer, but we obviously need the licence there. It also makes
> sense to state the file name (in case it gets renamed or shows up
> elsewhere), a description of what it's for and that it's part of Geeklog.
> We
> could probably drop the version number altogether, though.
>
> I guess we need the copyright line, which implies that we need a list of
> people holding that copyright, i.e. the authors. The author names are also
> horribly out of date (or just plain wrong) in many of our files, though.
> Email addresses, too (do we even need those?).
>
> If you scroll to the end of the GPL text here:
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
> you'll find instructions on how to best apply the licence to a file (that
> text is not part of the licence and hence not included in our copy under
> public_html/docs).
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Jan  6 03:08:24 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:08:24 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
In-Reply-To: <CAMbXZiNoRcSFm4YzpnQBCr4ewc2HsHCMEqT-jVjoMTeCdJnWjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
	<3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>
	<01d401cf0a42$121132b0$36339810$@cogeco.net>
	<CAMbXZiNoRcSFm4YzpnQBCr4ewc2HsHCMEqT-jVjoMTeCdJnWjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69994686-FCA7-4F29-9040-B1FDF170BE5D@haun-online.de>

Trinity <trinity93 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One possibility regarding copyrights would be to create a geekog foundation that copyright assignment is made to.

I'm not a big fan of the idea of copyright assignment. One being that, for a small and loosely organised group such as Geeklog, it erects additional hurdles for participation. We should make it easier for people to contribute, not harder.

Besides, for this to work, we would have to get the approval of all past contributors, would we not?

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Mon Jan  6 17:16:07 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 17:16:07 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers
In-Reply-To: <69994686-FCA7-4F29-9040-B1FDF170BE5D@haun-online.de>
References: <01c601cf0a22$24441080$6ccc3180$@cogeco.net>
	<3DA23FB1-DA0A-4A82-B831-AB1F9628D771@haun-online.de>
	<01d401cf0a42$121132b0$36339810$@cogeco.net>
	<CAMbXZiNoRcSFm4YzpnQBCr4ewc2HsHCMEqT-jVjoMTeCdJnWjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<69994686-FCA7-4F29-9040-B1FDF170BE5D@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <023701cf0b2c$e59a1260$b0ce3720$@cogeco.net>

>> We should make it easier for people to contribute, not harder.

I totally agree. 

My main thinking behind it was to make updating the comment headers easier
via a script. In reality most of the copyright information is outdated in
our files as a lot more people have worked on them than most of the
copyright statements indicate.

I will look into this more at a later date once Geeklog 2.1.0 is released
and I have a bit of time.

Tom

 
-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: January-06-14 3:08 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Code File Comment Headers

Trinity <trinity93 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One possibility regarding copyrights would be to create a geekog
foundation that copyright assignment is made to.

I'm not a big fan of the idea of copyright assignment. One being that, for a
small and loosely organised group such as Geeklog, it erects additional
hurdles for participation. We should make it easier for people to
contribute, not harder.

Besides, for this to work, we would have to get the approval of all past
contributors, would we not?

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan 11 10:36:54 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:36:54 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>

Hey Kenji ITO,

What is your estimate on a merge with the Filemanager?


Hey Yoshinori Tahara

What is your estimate on finishing the ajax and bug #0001543?


Hey Dirk

I've added a new config option for the title to id functionality and by
default it is disabled. This means a new language variable. I believe Kenji
is also planning to add a new config option so hold off on updating the
language files until he is done (unless he says otherwise).



Along with the release I think I should update Geeklog.net so I would like
to try to get the done in maybe 2 weeks (if my schedule holds).

I have also updated the Config docs and theme docs with new information. If
someone in the Japanese community could translate my changes for  there docs
I would appreciate it (since Google Translate does a bad job). I have
updated the History file with the major new features and bug fixes but if
anyone notices anything missing please add it in.

Thanks

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-04-14 6:02 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> How will access control work? Are you planning to add a 
> filemanager.admin right and enable it for the Story and Staticpage Admin
groups?

I will add a filemanager.admin for the Story and Staticpage Admin groups.

> I am also wondering if the user has access we could allow them to 
> launch it directly from the Control Panel under the tools section?

Unlike the filemanager shipped with FCKeditor, it is easy to launch the
Filemanager directly from the control panel, since it is independent of any
WYSIWYG editor.
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 11 23:06:25 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:06:25 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
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Message-ID: <57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> Hey Kenji ITO,
>
> What is your estimate on a merge with the Filemanager?

I have just finished integrating the Filemanager into Geeklog on the
Filemanager branch, except for documentation.
--
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http://mystral-kk.net/




From taharaxp at gmail.com  Sun Jan 12 01:24:58 2014
From: taharaxp at gmail.com (Yoshinori Tahara)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:24:58 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
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	<57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <CAEhBJicuLJqMYxLUvvxGVPoGc6v7-vXb93O7gXR2jNGRr7Uynw@mail.gmail.com>

Tom worte:

> Hey Yoshinori Tahara
>
> What is your estimate on finishing the ajax and bug #0001543?

I have just finished fixing a bug #0001543.
But I did not use the ajax this time.
There is a need to consider the security in ajax.

-- 
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Jan 12 09:57:32 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:57:32 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog OAuth Updates
Message-ID: <04e201cf0fa6$9f30b170$dd921450$@cogeco.net>

 

FYI the Oauth class we use has been updated

 

http://www.phpclasses.org/package/7700-PHP-Authorize-and-access-APIs-using-O
Auth.html

 

Here are the changes:

 

Fixed passing the POST request values to API calls with OAuth 1 requests.

Added support for Dropbox using OAuth 2.0.

Added support to Reddit OAuth server.

Added support to OAuth servers that require to pass the client ID and

secret via HTTP basic authentication.

Documented the support to Reddit and Dropbox with OAuth 2.0.

 

I have no plans of updating this class for Geeklog 2.1.0. It will have to
wait for the next Geeklog version.

 

That also reminds me Dirk. The pear package contains the Oauth libraries
(under the HTTP directory). We do not need them anymore.

 

Tom

 

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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan 18 10:29:38 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:29:38 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
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Message-ID: <009f01cf1462$198e9940$4cabcbc0$@cogeco.net>

Hey Kenji,

Do you think the file manager is at the point where we can close its branch
and merge it into head?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-11-14 11:06 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> Hey Kenji ITO,
>
> What is your estimate on a merge with the Filemanager?

I have just finished integrating the Filemanager into Geeklog on the
Filemanager branch, except for documentation.
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 18 16:35:25 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 06:35:25 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <009f01cf1462$198e9940$4cabcbc0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
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Message-ID: <40281.203.189.105.202.1390080925.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> Hey Kenji,
>
> Do you think the file manager is at the point where we can close its
> branch and merge it into head?

I think it is.  Currently, there is nothing left that I should do more
with it.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan 18 20:19:07 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:19:07 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <40281.203.189.105.202.1390080925.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<009f01cf1462$198e9940$4cabcbc0$@cogeco.net>
	<40281.203.189.105.202.1390080925.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <00d801cf14b4$730af340$5920d9c0$@cogeco.net>

Then you might as well go ahead and merge it then unless anyone else has a
reason not to.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-18-14 4:35 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Tom wrote:

> Hey Kenji,
>
> Do you think the file manager is at the point where we can close its 
> branch and merge it into head?

I think it is.  Currently, there is nothing left that I should do more with
it.
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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 18 21:35:56 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:35:56 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <00d801cf14b4$730af340$5920d9c0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<57601.203.189.105.202.1389499585.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<009f01cf1462$198e9940$4cabcbc0$@cogeco.net>
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Message-ID: <52826.203.189.105.202.1390098956.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> Then you might as well go ahead and merge it then unless anyone else has a
> reason not to.

I am going to wait till Monday morning and close the branch if there is no
opposition.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net




From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Jan 23 10:27:48 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:27:48 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
Message-ID: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>

Folks,

we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.

https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534

bye, Dirk


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From cordiste at free.fr  Fri Jan 24 05:34:43 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:34:43 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr
since 5 minutes.
Need few minutes to see if it is working.

Ben

2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> Folks,
>
> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>
> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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>
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>


From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Jan 24 06:36:31 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:36:31 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>

Thanks Ben,

Let us know how it goes.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated

Hi,

I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr since 5
minutes.
Need few minutes to see if it is working.

Ben

2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> Folks,
>
> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>
> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Jan 25 16:08:53 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:08:53 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] FOSDEM
Message-ID: <F054C717-33C4-4D06-B818-4513D2D40CD1@haun-online.de>

Is anyone going to FOSDEM in Brussels next weekend (Feb 1/2)? I haven?t made any plans yet, so I?m open to any suggestions for meet ups or just a chat over a coffee (or beer) in the cafeteria.

https://fosdem.org/2014/

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Jan 25 16:29:48 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:29:48 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>

Tom wrote:

> I've added a new config option for the title to id functionality and by
> default it is disabled. This means a new language variable. I believe Kenji
> is also planning to add a new config option so hold off on updating the
> language files until he is done (unless he says otherwise).

I just ran the script but it seems that all the language files are already up to date. Looks like Kenji added all the new strings to all the language files (not manually, I would hope).

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.themobilepresenter.com/



From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 25 17:15:55 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 07:15:55 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dirk wrote:

> Tom wrote:
>
>> I've added a new config option for the title to id functionality and by
>> default it is disabled. This means a new language variable. I believe
>> Kenji
>> is also planning to add a new config option so hold off on updating the
>> language files until he is done (unless he says otherwise).
>
> I just ran the script but it seems that all the language files are already
> up to date. Looks like Kenji added all the new strings to all the language
> files (not manually, I would hope).

Yes, I modified your "lm" tool a bit and synced all the language files on
my Windows PC.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net




From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Jan 25 17:22:47 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:22:47 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
	<42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <AF56BBC9-3428-478A-BA98-D567B1FC385B@haun-online.de>

Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:

> Yes, I modified your "lm" tool a bit and synced all the language files on
> my Windows PC.

Good :)

Would it make sense to push those changes to the tools repository or are those changes Windows-specific?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.themobilepresenter.com/



From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 25 17:38:59 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 07:38:59 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <AF56BBC9-3428-478A-BA98-D567B1FC385B@haun-online.de>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
	<42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<AF56BBC9-3428-478A-BA98-D567B1FC385B@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <43361.203.189.105.202.1390689539.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Dir wrote:

> Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I modified your "lm" tool a bit and synced all the language files
>> on
>> my Windows PC.
>
> Good :)
>
> Would it make sense to push those changes to the tools repository or are
> those changes Windows-specific?

I made "uplng.bat" (Windows batch file) based on your "uplng.sh" and it
works differently from yours.  So I don't think it is good to add my
script to the repository.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Jan 25 20:26:10 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:10 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <43361.203.189.105.202.1390689539.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
	<42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<AF56BBC9-3428-478A-BA98-D567B1FC385B@haun-online.de>
	<43361.203.189.105.202.1390689539.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
Message-ID: <00ae01cf1a35$983ff170$c8bfd450$@cogeco.net>

I use windows so would it be something I can (or other windows users) use to
synch the language files or is it really specific to your machine.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Kenji ITO
Sent: January-25-14 5:39 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration

Dir wrote:

> Kenji ITO <geeklog at mystral-kk.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I modified your "lm" tool a bit and synced all the language 
>> files on my Windows PC.
>
> Good :)
>
> Would it make sense to push those changes to the tools repository or 
> are those changes Windows-specific?

I made "uplng.bat" (Windows batch file) based on your "uplng.sh" and it
works differently from yours.  So I don't think it is good to add my script
to the repository.
--
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net


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From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Sat Jan 25 20:59:11 2014
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (Kenji ITO)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:59:11 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Filemanager integration
In-Reply-To: <00ae01cf1a35$983ff170$c8bfd450$@cogeco.net>
References: <54047.203.189.105.202.1388658987.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00c601cf07d7$b5593840$200ba8c0$@cogeco.net>
	<57640.203.189.105.202.1388751245.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<017701cf0966$33ab6b20$9b024160$@cogeco.net>
	<53393.203.189.105.202.1388876513.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<048b01cf0ee2$f4946f40$ddbd4dc0$@cogeco.net>
	<E8598A6A-1E86-4A26-AFBC-8E381F45CC62@haun-online.de>
	<42902.203.189.105.202.1390688155.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<AF56BBC9-3428-478A-BA98-D567B1FC385B@haun-online.de>
	<43361.203.189.105.202.1390689539.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>
	<00ae01cf1a35$983ff170$c8bfd450$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <37470.203.189.105.202.1390701551.squirrel@www.s215.xrea.com>

Tom wrote:

> I use windows so would it be something I can (or other windows users) use
> to
> synch the language files or is it really specific to your machine.

OK, I committed my addition to the repository.  Have a look at it.
-- 
Kenji ITO
http://mystral-kk.net




From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Jan 28 05:04:39 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:04:39 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>

I confirm the bug for comment submission and captcha 3.5. I'm working on it...

I was not able to post a response to the geeklog.net forum :
"Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page. Please try
again later. "

Ben

2014-01-24 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
> Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr since 5
> minutes.
> Need few minutes to see if it is working.
>
> Ben
>
> 2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
>> Folks,
>>
>> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>>
>> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>


From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Tue Jan 28 07:03:25 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 07:03:25 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018a01cf1c20$f2a4c6d0$d7ee5470$@cogeco.net>

Thanks Ben,

We will take a look why you had an issue posting on the forum.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
Sent: January-28-14 5:05 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated

I confirm the bug for comment submission and captcha 3.5. I'm working on
it...

I was not able to post a response to the geeklog.net forum :
"Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page. Please try again
later. "

Ben

2014-01-24 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
> Thanks Ben,
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
> Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr 
> since 5 minutes.
> Need few minutes to see if it is working.
>
> Ben
>
> 2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
>> Folks,
>>
>> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>>
>> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
_______________________________________________
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From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Jan 28 08:03:56 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:03:56 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>

Update is now available [1]. I still can not reply on geeklog.net
forum. Same message: "Unfortunately, an error has occurred...".

Ben

[1] http://geeklog.fr/downloads/index.php

2014-01-28 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
> I confirm the bug for comment submission and captcha 3.5. I'm working on it...
>
> I was not able to post a response to the geeklog.net forum :
> "Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page. Please try
> again later. "
>
> Ben
>
> 2014-01-24 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
>> Thanks Ben,
>>
>> Let us know how it goes.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
>> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
>> Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
>> To: Geeklog Development
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr since 5
>> minutes.
>> Need few minutes to see if it is working.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> 2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>>>
>>> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>>>
>>> bye, Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>


From komma at ivywe.co.jp  Tue Jan 28 08:18:52 2014
From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEI=?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:18:52 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKKjkZvMeH4t+Uiy3CpzPu8KZG9LEwzF50hC2W34OGSk3eqb=w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ben,

I attached japanese_utf-8.php for Captcha 3.5.0 in this email.


2014-01-28 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>
>
> Update is now available [1]. I still can not reply on geeklog.net
> forum. Same message: "Unfortunately, an error has occurred...".
>
> Ben
>
> [1] http://geeklog.fr/downloads/index.php
>
> 2014-01-28 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
> > I confirm the bug for comment submission and captcha 3.5. I'm working on it...
> >
> > I was not able to post a response to the geeklog.net forum :
> > "Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page. Please try
> > again later. "
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > 2014-01-24 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
> >> Thanks Ben,
> >>
> >> Let us know how it goes.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
> >> Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
> >> To: Geeklog Development
> >> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr since 5
> >> minutes.
> >> Need few minutes to see if it is working.
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> 2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
> >>>
> >>> bye, Dirk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Jan 28 10:07:12 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:07:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CAKKjkZvMeH4t+Uiy3CpzPu8KZG9LEwzF50hC2W34OGSk3eqb=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKKjkZvMeH4t+Uiy3CpzPu8KZG9LEwzF50hC2W34OGSk3eqb=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdey_8DBNqT32ooUHQ3JuTGdZ0dW3+aUsqHk_i_EMiFL5A@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Ivy. I added the file in our download area.

Ben

2014-01-28 ???? <komma at ivywe.co.jp>:
> Thanks Ben,
>
> I attached japanese_utf-8.php for Captcha 3.5.0 in this email.
>
>
> 2014-01-28 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>
>>
>> Update is now available [1]. I still can not reply on geeklog.net
>> forum. Same message: "Unfortunately, an error has occurred...".
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> [1] http://geeklog.fr/downloads/index.php
>>
>> 2014-01-28 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>> > I confirm the bug for comment submission and captcha 3.5. I'm working on it...
>> >
>> > I was not able to post a response to the geeklog.net forum :
>> > "Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page. Please try
>> > again later. "
>> >
>> > Ben
>> >
>> > 2014-01-24 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
>> >> Thanks Ben,
>> >>
>> >> Let us know how it goes.
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
>> >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
>> >> Sent: January-24-14 5:35 AM
>> >> To: Geeklog Development
>> >> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to implement a quick fix. It is now running on geeklog.fr since 5
>> >> minutes.
>> >> Need few minutes to see if it is working.
>> >>
>> >> Ben
>> >>
>> >> 2014/1/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
>> >>> Folks,
>> >>>
>> >>> we need a new CAPTCHA plugin. Other creative ideas also welcome.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=95534
>> >>>
>> >>> bye, Dirk
>> >>>
>> >>>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Jan 28 14:54:33 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:54:33 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<CACfYZdephDa5qby2uU6oPAWo6YM1mdKedWRA2gEG4pGSKXz6tQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<023d01cf18f8$875c4180$9614c480$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZdf8P3cCqgNd8v42Q+R9V494U+qAgD+jCczXCdmqSiuLhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfYZdeWY-s48Mi4nvTw+ciD10qPFSVk6C+Q5HUOt8B+fE26mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880E37B3-C7AE-43DF-8B23-7CBBC8083D32@haun-online.de>

cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

> Update is now available [1]. I still can not reply on geeklog.net
> forum. Same message: "Unfortunately, an error has occurred?".

That should be fixed now. Sorry about that.

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Jan 29 15:15:38 2014
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:15:38 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <6D6E070F-2896-4C3F-84B5-9C4D46927B8E@haun-online.de>

So, which CAPTCHA plugin are we going to install on geeklog.net? Because we?re still getting those spam user signups.

FWIW, I?ve installed the reCAPTCHA plugin on my 2 blogs and I still get the occasional spam user (still the same sort, it seems) but it?s not the onslaught that it was before.

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Wed Jan 29 18:14:16 2014
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:14:16 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <6D6E070F-2896-4C3F-84B5-9C4D46927B8E@haun-online.de>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<6D6E070F-2896-4C3F-84B5-9C4D46927B8E@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <004e01cf1d47$d4727c70$7d577550$@cogeco.net>

I have had the same experience as well. I have also installed the latest
Captcha plugin (3.5.2) and still get the occasional  spammer getting
through.

The Captcha plugin uses a jQuery plugin called QapTcha
(http://www.myjqueryplugins.com/jquery-plugin/qaptcha)

Captcha Plugin 
Pros
- Very easy to use by user
- Supports touch interfaces
Cons
- Not sure how long it has been around

reCAPTCHA Plugin
Pros
- Run by Google who constantly tweak it to make it harder on the spam bots
- These tweaks do not require any changes on our part
Cons
- Everyone uses it so the spambots are familiar with how to attack it 
- CAPTCHA's be hard to read



-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: January-29-14 3:16 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated

So, which CAPTCHA plugin are we going to install on geeklog.net? Because
we're still getting those spam user signups.

FWIW, I've installed the reCAPTCHA plugin on my 2 blogs and I still get the
occasional spam user (still the same sort, it seems) but it's not the
onslaught that it was before.

bye, Dirk


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From cordiste at free.fr  Thu Jan 30 07:11:55 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:11:55 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <004e01cf1d47$d4727c70$7d577550$@cogeco.net>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<6D6E070F-2896-4C3F-84B5-9C4D46927B8E@haun-online.de>
	<004e01cf1d47$d4727c70$7d577550$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CACfYZddkVaUqGH=PXZt2GcDOT=dFVW6BbWP7h+KzsBG+dU7utQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tom still have issues with Captcha plugin. We are investigating on this...

Using the captcha plugin on most of my sites (more than 10) since few
days, I noticed no one spam. So captcha plugin is not perfect but it
is working for me.

The next feature will be the option to remove the slider, because the
captcha plugin come with 3 inplementation of the same technics, an
"hidden" input. I think in most cases 2 blank inputs are enought.

Ben

2014-01-30 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
> I have had the same experience as well. I have also installed the latest
> Captcha plugin (3.5.2) and still get the occasional  spammer getting
> through.
>
> The Captcha plugin uses a jQuery plugin called QapTcha
> (http://www.myjqueryplugins.com/jquery-plugin/qaptcha)
>
> Captcha Plugin
> Pros
> - Very easy to use by user
> - Supports touch interfaces
> Cons
> - Not sure how long it has been around
>
> reCAPTCHA Plugin
> Pros
> - Run by Google who constantly tweak it to make it harder on the spam bots
> - These tweaks do not require any changes on our part
> Cons
> - Everyone uses it so the spambots are familiar with how to attack it
> - CAPTCHA's be hard to read
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
> Sent: January-29-14 3:16 PM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>
> So, which CAPTCHA plugin are we going to install on geeklog.net? Because
> we're still getting those spam user signups.
>
> FWIW, I've installed the reCAPTCHA plugin on my 2 blogs and I still get the
> occasional spam user (still the same sort, it seems) but it's not the
> onslaught that it was before.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>
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From cordiste at free.fr  Fri Jan 31 17:04:32 2014
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:04:32 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZddkVaUqGH=PXZt2GcDOT=dFVW6BbWP7h+KzsBG+dU7utQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140123162748.Horde.4oaDmmgZqb8Xsw882qeQdg9@webmail.df.eu>
	<6D6E070F-2896-4C3F-84B5-9C4D46927B8E@haun-online.de>
	<004e01cf1d47$d4727c70$7d577550$@cogeco.net>
	<CACfYZddkVaUqGH=PXZt2GcDOT=dFVW6BbWP7h+KzsBG+dU7utQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdcajwZukxR0Z+Z4duAWY3L=dCbgH87JpTOgJpN9LOC1ng@mail.gmail.com>

Everything seems to be ok with captcha plugin V3.5.3 A new feature
allows to display the CAPTCHA test only to bots. No image, no
question, no slider... very user friendly.

Ben

2014-01-30 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
> Tom still have issues with Captcha plugin. We are investigating on this...
>
> Using the captcha plugin on most of my sites (more than 10) since few
> days, I noticed no one spam. So captcha plugin is not perfect but it
> is working for me.
>
> The next feature will be the option to remove the slider, because the
> captcha plugin come with 3 inplementation of the same technics, an
> "hidden" input. I think in most cases 2 blank inputs are enought.
>
> Ben
>
> 2014-01-30 Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:
>> I have had the same experience as well. I have also installed the latest
>> Captcha plugin (3.5.2) and still get the occasional  spammer getting
>> through.
>>
>> The Captcha plugin uses a jQuery plugin called QapTcha
>> (http://www.myjqueryplugins.com/jquery-plugin/qaptcha)
>>
>> Captcha Plugin
>> Pros
>> - Very easy to use by user
>> - Supports touch interfaces
>> Cons
>> - Not sure how long it has been around
>>
>> reCAPTCHA Plugin
>> Pros
>> - Run by Google who constantly tweak it to make it harder on the spam bots
>> - These tweaks do not require any changes on our part
>> Cons
>> - Everyone uses it so the spambots are familiar with how to attack it
>> - CAPTCHA's be hard to read
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
>> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
>> Sent: January-29-14 3:16 PM
>> To: Geeklog Development
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] CAPTCHA plugin defeated
>>
>> So, which CAPTCHA plugin are we going to install on geeklog.net? Because
>> we're still getting those spam user signups.
>>
>> FWIW, I've installed the reCAPTCHA plugin on my 2 blogs and I still get the
>> occasional spam user (still the same sort, it seems) but it's not the
>> onslaught that it was before.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
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>>