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Today's Topics:

1. OpenSource DB modeling tool (Blaine Lang)
2. Re: OpenSource DB modeling tool (Dwight Trumbower)
3. Re: OpenSource DB modeling tool (Tony Bibbs)
4. Re: OpenSource DB modeling tool (Blaine Lang)
5. Re: OpenSource DB modeling tool (dwight at trumbower.com)

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Message: 1
From: "Blaine Lang" <geeklog at langfamily.ca>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:44:23 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

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Have a look at this project -- I'm quite impressed for an opensource =
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I need to read the doc's and work with it more but It automatically saw =
all my MySQL databases and could import one in to show all the tables.
Need to figure out how to auto draw the relationships but impressive.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:33:40 -0600
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
From: Dwight Trumbower <dwight at trumbower.com>
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

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At 05:44 PM 12/15/2003, you wrote:

>Have a look at this project -- I'm quite impressed for an opensource tool.

>

>I need to read the doc's and work with it more but It automatically saw

>all my MySQL databases and could import one in to show all the tables.

>Need to figure out how to auto draw the relationships but impressive.

>

><http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/>http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

>

>---

Nice find, I've been looking for an open source solution and this looks
nice. Was able to reverse engineer a MSSQL and a MySQL database easily.
Changing the target db doesn't seem as straight forward as other tools, but
it has a good feature set.

How did you find it?

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:50:55 -0600
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Sweet, first impression is good. I need some time to play with it but
so far so good.

-Tony

Dwight Trumbower wrote:

> At 05:44 PM 12/15/2003, you wrote:

>

>> Have a look at this project -- I'm quite impressed for an opensource

>> tool.

>>

>> I need to read the doc's and work with it more but It automatically

>> saw all my MySQL databases and could import one in to show all the

>> tables.

>> Need to figure out how to auto draw the relationships but impressive.

>>

>> <http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/>http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

>>

>>

>> ---

>

>

>

> Nice find, I've been looking for an open source solution and this looks

> nice. Was able to reverse engineer a MSSQL and a MySQL database easily.

> Changing the target db doesn't seem as straight forward as other tools,

> but it has a good feature set.

>

> How did you find it?

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Message: 4
From: "Blaine Lang" <geeklog at langfamily.ca>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:13:00 -0500
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I saw it noted in my recent copy of PHP Architect.

By the way -- there is an article in this issue on CMS's - Mostly Nuke by
JohnCox.
It's supposed to be on the future of OpenSource CMS's but is mostly a
NukeBash and Hyping up his new project Xaraya.

He mentions Geeklog once - in the paragraph below

I have spent a great deal of time pointing out the problems
with Nuke systems. I would also say that these are
universal problems in one way or another. Drupal has
its problems as good a system as it is; Geeklog isn't perfect
as evidenced by the entries in Bug Traq; Typo3 is a
very good system but it tackles problems in a very different
fashion than some are looking for; and ezPublish
has a very high cost of entry. Let me start by saying
Xaraya ain't nirvana either. It is an immature product
with a smaller user base than other content management
systems. Xaraya has great potential though.

About the author:
John is best known for his work on the Nuke flavor of community management
with contributions to PHP-Nuke and later as a founder of PostNuke. He is
currently working with the Project Management Committee of Xaraya which is
one of the more anticipated projects of 2004.

I was not too impressed!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight Trumbower" <dwight at trumbower.com>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool

> At 05:44 PM 12/15/2003, you wrote:

>

> >Have a look at this project -- I'm quite impressed for an opensource

tool.

> >

> >I need to read the doc's and work with it more but It automatically saw

> >all my MySQL databases and could import one in to show all the tables.

> >Need to figure out how to auto draw the relationships but impressive.

> >

>

><http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/>http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

> >

> >---

>

>

> Nice find, I've been looking for an open source solution and this looks

> nice. Was able to reverse engineer a MSSQL and a MySQL database easily.

> Changing the target db doesn't seem as straight forward as other tools,

but

> it has a good feature set.

>

> How did you find it?

>

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:12:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OpenSource DB modeling tool
From: dwight at trumbower.com
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> I saw it noted in my recent copy of PHP Architect.

It has been purchased by MySQL AB, so future support and development
should be good. It would really be nice if it supported ddl creation for
other DBs. Maybe MySQL AB will see the advantage of this.

> I was not too impressed!

I looked at Xaraya a while back and had a heck of time trying to install.

I'm glad he basis his opinions on Bug Track. Probably could get a few
people posting bugs about Xaraya and see how well he feels. :)

D

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