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Today's Topics:

   1. Groklaw (Tony Bibbs)
   2. Re: Groklaw (Rob Griffiths)
   3. Re: Groklaw (Tony Bibbs)
   4. Server changes coming... (Tony Bibbs)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:32:00 -0600
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: Geeklog <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Groklaw
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I can't hardly go a day anymore before someone in my circle of techies 
mentions something about Groklaw.net running Geeklog.  I too am pretty 
excited about it but I think we should their popularity and those of 
other Geeklog sites to talk about scaling issues.  I know 
masosxhints.com does a lot of traffic as does groklaw.net and I'm 
interested how they have managed to scale Geeklog.  Groklaw has been 
/.'d a few times and is always up when I visit it.  Now, having authored 
my fair share of GL, I find this pleasantly surprising but I'd like ot 
know what they are doing.  Are they simply using beefy boxes and ISP's 
with fat pipes or are there some other things under the hood.  Any of 
you have an answers to this?

--Tony

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Message: 2
From: Rob Griffiths <robg at macosxhints.com>
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Groklaw
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:50:48 -0800
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Tony Bibbs wrote:


> their popularity and those of other Geeklog sites to talk about 

> scaling issues.  I know masosxhints.com does a lot of traffic as does 

> groklaw.net and I'm interested how they have


Don't forget about MacFixIt, probably the king of volume at the moment. 
  macosxhints.com is doing about 7gb to 8gb a day, with 1,000,000+ page 
views a month, and we haven't had any problems with Geeklog keeping 
pace -- pages still load lightning quick.

According to my config guy, he just "tweaked" php.ini and mysql.conf a 
bit, and made sure that the pconnect was disabled.  In addition, we 
threw a really big hardware box at it -- a dual Xeon machine with 2gb 
of RAM, and it's a dedicated server just for hints and the forum site 
(and a few very tiny family sites).  We're still running 1.37 (all 
security updates applied, I think), though I have 1.38 running locally 
and hope to get it online Someday Really Soon Now.


> know what they are doing.  Are they simply using beefy boxes and ISP's 

> with fat pipes or are there some other things under the hood.  Any of 

> you have an answers to this?


Our ISP (ev1.net) definitely has fat pipes, and provides a lot of 
bandwidth (1.2 terabytes), which is very nice. They seem to have one of 
the faster net connections I've seen (I've had four hosts in three 
years with macosxhints, mainly due to outgrowing all the prior 
providers). I think we'll be with ev1.net for a while -- until I can 
find a similar host offering dual XServes, so I can finally host on 
what I write about :).

If you want, I can probably get the php.ini and mysql.cnf files for you 
to look at...

-rob.


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:06:20 -0600
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Groklaw
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Sure send them over, i'd be interested to see what you have.  Let me 
know which version of the MySQL conf file yours is based on (three or so 
ship with the distro).

Need to catch up with Marc sometime soon...haven't seen him in a while 
if you run into him maybe mention this thread.

Oh, and 7-8Gb...wow.  I'm poised to break the 3GB mark this month.  Nice 
to keep things in perspective.

--Tony

Rob Griffiths wrote:

> On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Tony Bibbs wrote:

> 

>> their popularity and those of other Geeklog sites to talk about 

>> scaling issues.  I know masosxhints.com does a lot of traffic as does 

>> groklaw.net and I'm interested how they have

> 

> 

> Don't forget about MacFixIt, probably the king of volume at the moment. 

>  macosxhints.com is doing about 7gb to 8gb a day, with 1,000,000+ page 

> views a month, and we haven't had any problems with Geeklog keeping pace 

> -- pages still load lightning quick.

> 

> According to my config guy, he just "tweaked" php.ini and mysql.conf a 

> bit, and made sure that the pconnect was disabled.  In addition, we 

> threw a really big hardware box at it -- a dual Xeon machine with 2gb of 

> RAM, and it's a dedicated server just for hints and the forum site (and 

> a few very tiny family sites).  We're still running 1.37 (all security 

> updates applied, I think), though I have 1.38 running locally and hope 

> to get it online Someday Really Soon Now.

> 

>> know what they are doing.  Are they simply using beefy boxes and ISP's 

>> with fat pipes or are there some other things under the hood.  Any of 

>> you have an answers to this?

> 

> 

> Our ISP (ev1.net) definitely has fat pipes, and provides a lot of 

> bandwidth (1.2 terabytes), which is very nice. They seem to have one of 

> the faster net connections I've seen (I've had four hosts in three years 

> with macosxhints, mainly due to outgrowing all the prior providers). I 

> think we'll be with ev1.net for a while -- until I can find a similar 

> host offering dual XServes, so I can finally host on what I write about :).

> 

> If you want, I can probably get the php.ini and mysql.cnf files for you 

> to look at...

> 

> -rob.

> 

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|Tony Bibbs         |[R]egardless of what you may think of our penal   |

|tony at tonybibbs.com |system, the fact is that every man in jail is one |

|                   |less potential fisherman to clutter up your       |

|                   |favorite pool or pond. --Ed Zern                  | 


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:10:46 -0600
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Server changes coming...
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I am busy getting the current server that hosts CVS and 
project.geeklog.net upgraded and moved to a colo.  In doing this I think 
we should at least consider if we don't want to move CVS and the project 
site to Pair.  I only mention this because we have a dedicated server 
for www.geeklog.net and it seems to make sense to have it all on one 
server (until the MySQL instance dies).  Any thoughts?

Also, if we decide to leave things as they are I will have to move CVS 
and the project site to a temporary server (along with 
iowaoutdoors.org).  This server is a dual pentium pro with only 256MB 
RAM so there may be a noticeable difference in performance.  This is 
only needed until I can get Gentoo installed on the server and get it 
moved over to my colo where I can move everything back to it.

--Tony

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|Tony Bibbs         |[R]egardless of what you may think of our penal   |

|tony at tonybibbs.com |system, the fact is that every man in jail is one |

|                   |less potential fisherman to clutter up your       |

|                   |favorite pool or pond. --Ed Zern                  | 


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