[geeklog-devtalk] geeklog-devel digest, Vol 1 #337 - 11 msgs

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Today's Topics:

1. Documentation (Tom Willett)
2. Documentation again (Tom Willett)
3. Re: Documentation (Tony Bibbs)
4. Re: Documentation (Blaine Lang)
5. Re: Documentation (Tom Willett)
6. Amazon Web Services (Tony Bibbs)
7. Re: Documentation (Tom Willett)
8. Re: Amazon Web Services (Tom Willett)
9. Re: Documentation (Tony Bibbs)
10. Re: Amazon Web Services (Tony Bibbs)
11. Re: Documentation (Tom Willett)

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Message: 1
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:00:57 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to
kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my
webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I
never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy insertion
of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not MSWord
but its usable.

Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all the
documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the
Geeklog server.

By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql
database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you
supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with
correct permissions for you.

Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about 1
hour.

Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I will
solicit submissions and announce it soon.

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net


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Message: 2
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:01:53 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Documentation again
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

By the way you can see my effort at

http://www.pigstye.net/wiki/

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:37:27 -0500
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I can host it if you want, that's no problem. Optionally, I could also
simply point wiki.geeklog.net at your server.

I'm flexible, let me know what is preferred...

--Tony

Tom Willett wrote:


>Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to

>kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my

>webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I

>never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy insertion

>of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not MSWord

>but its usable.

>

>Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all the

>documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the

>Geeklog server.

>

>By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql

>database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you

>supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with

>correct permissions for you.

>

>Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about 1

>hour.

>

>Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I will

>solicit submissions and announce it soon.

>

>--

>Tom Willett

>tomw at pigstye.net

>

>_______________________________________________

>geeklog-devel mailing list

>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>

>


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Message: 4
From: "Blaine Lang" <geeklog at langfamily.ca>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:25:53 -0400
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Tom,

I think this is a great start and I too was fustrated by all the talk and no
action. I always felt it was more important to get the content in place and
then it could be formatted or copied to another solution if needed.

I believe I had posted a suggested TOC that I say used in another similar
project - as a good outline to begin with.

I was looking at the edit feature. Do you need to FTP up the images to the
image library and then reference them?
Maybe add a small example page :)

I've been using SnagIT Studio to do screen snapshots and annotations for my
customer documentation like
http://www.portalparts.com/temp/EventRegistrationComponent.jpg - It saves
trying to explain it in 1000 words or more.
Doing some of these may be quite helpfull for this documentation.

Blaine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:00 AM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Documentation


Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to
kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my
webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I
never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy insertion
of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not MSWord
but its usable.

Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all the
documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the
Geeklog server.

By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql
database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you
supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with
correct permissions for you.

Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about 1
hour.

Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I will
solicit submissions and announce it soon.

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net

_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel


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Message: 5
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:05:52 +0000
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I do not care either. I have not played with it enough to see if it will
gracefully handle a redirect from wiki.geeklog.net, but if it would that
would be the easiest. I am willing to host it for the time being. I think
we should get it resolved one way or the other quickly though.

Geeklog is your baby more than mine and I bow to your preferences.

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:37:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation


> I can host it if you want, that's no problem. Optionally, I could also

> simply point wiki.geeklog.net at your server.

>

> I'm flexible, let me know what is preferred...

>

> --Tony

>

> Tom Willett wrote:

>

> >Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to

> >kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my

> >webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I

> >never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy

insertion

> >of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not

MSWord

> >but its usable.

> >

> >Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all

the

> >documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the

> >Geeklog server.

> >

> >By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql

> >database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you

> >supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with

> >correct permissions for you.

> >

> >Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about

1

> >hour.

> >

> >Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I

will

> >solicit submissions and announce it soon.

> >

> >--

> >Tom Willett

> >tomw at pigstye.net

> >

> >_______________________________________________

> >geeklog-devel mailing list

> >geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

> >

> >

> _______________________________________________

> geeklog-devel mailing list

> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

------- End of Original Message -------


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:32 -0500
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Amazon Web Services
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

I noticed the amazon web service stuff here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gl-webservices

My first thought was, "Gee, that sure hasn't been updated in a long
time". Then my second thought was, "Hrm, it's still in beta".

Does it still work? I'm asking because I want to use it on
http://www.iowaoutdoors.org but don't want to monkey with it until I
know the code is working with the latest Amazon API.

If nobody answers I'll give it a try but I figured I'd try to save
myself some time first.

--Tony

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Message: 7
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:11:32 +0000
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Blaine,

Uploads are easy. If you signup and log in a upload link appears -- the
upload is pretty sophisticated and I locked down the upload directory
permissions (only png, ogg, jpeg, jpg, gif and nothing will execute even if
it gets in there).

After you upload your picture, you just refer to it by name and its
inserted. You insert a page by refering to it. Typical wiki stuff.

I will try to find your outline -- it has to be better than my simple
attempt.

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Blaine Lang" <geeklog at langfamily.ca>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:25:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation


> Tom,

>

> I think this is a great start and I too was fustrated by all the talk and

no

> action. I always felt it was more important to get the content in place and

> then it could be formatted or copied to another solution if needed.

>

> I believe I had posted a suggested TOC that I say used in another similar

> project - as a good outline to begin with.

>

> I was looking at the edit feature. Do you need to FTP up the images to the

> image library and then reference them?

> Maybe add a small example page :)

>

> I've been using SnagIT Studio to do screen snapshots and annotations for my

> customer documentation like

> http://www.portalparts.com/temp/EventRegistrationComponent.jpg - It saves

> trying to explain it in 1000 words or more.

> Doing some of these may be quite helpfull for this documentation.

>

> Blaine

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>

> To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:00 AM

> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Documentation

>

> Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to

> kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my

> webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I

> never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy insertion

> of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not MSWord

> but its usable.

>

> Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all the

> documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the

> Geeklog server.

>

> By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql

> database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you

> supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with

> correct permissions for you.

>

> Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about 1

> hour.

>

> Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I will

> solicit submissions and announce it soon.

>

> --

> Tom Willett

> tomw at pigstye.net

>

> _______________________________________________

> geeklog-devel mailing list

> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>

> _______________________________________________

> geeklog-devel mailing list

> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

------- End of Original Message -------


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Message: 8
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Amazon Web Services
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:13:22 +0000
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Last person to mess with it was Squatty I believe. I ran it for about 6
months and got no hits so trashed it and found better ways to get some
income.

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:32 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Amazon Web Services


> I noticed the amazon web service stuff here:

>

> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gl-webservices

>

> My first thought was, "Gee, that sure hasn't been updated in a long

> time". Then my second thought was, "Hrm, it's still in beta".

>

> Does it still work? I'm asking because I want to use it on

> http://www.iowaoutdoors.org but don't want to monkey with it until I

> know the code is working with the latest Amazon API.

>

> If nobody answers I'll give it a try but I figured I'd try to save

> myself some time first.

>

> --Tony

> _______________________________________________

> geeklog-devel mailing list

> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

------- End of Original Message -------


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:13:15 -0500
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Actually, I wasn't going to redirect. I was going to actually add an
entry in the DNS zone file. At this point I think I'd prefer to just
point the DNS to you if you don't mind. If that is OK, send me your IP
and I'll get it setup.

--Tony

Tom Willett wrote:


>I do not care either. I have not played with it enough to see if it will

>gracefully handle a redirect from wiki.geeklog.net, but if it would that

>would be the easiest. I am willing to host it for the time being. I think

>we should get it resolved one way or the other quickly though.

>

>Geeklog is your baby more than mine and I bow to your preferences.

>

>--

>Tom Willett

>tomw at pigstye.net

>

>---------- Original Message -----------

>From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>

>To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:37:27 -0500

>Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation

>

>

>

>>I can host it if you want, that's no problem. Optionally, I could also

>>simply point wiki.geeklog.net at your server.

>>

>>I'm flexible, let me know what is preferred...

>>

>>--Tony

>>

>>Tom Willett wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going to

>>>kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my

>>>webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it. I

>>>never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy

>>>

>>>

>insertion

>

>

>>>of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not

>>>

>>>

>MSWord

>

>

>>>but its usable.

>>>

>>>Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all

>>>

>>>

>the

>

>

>>>documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one the

>>>Geeklog server.

>>>

>>>By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql

>>>database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you

>>>supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user with

>>>correct permissions for you.

>>>

>>>Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took about

>>>

>>>

>1

>

>

>>>hour.

>>>

>>>Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I

>>>

>>>

>will

>

>

>>>solicit submissions and announce it soon.

>>>

>>>--

>>>Tom Willett

>>>tomw at pigstye.net

>>>

>>>_______________________________________________

>>>geeklog-devel mailing list

>>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>_______________________________________________

>>geeklog-devel mailing list

>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>>

>>

>------- End of Original Message -------

>

>_______________________________________________

>geeklog-devel mailing list

>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>

>


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:17:25 -0500
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Amazon Web Services
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Hrm, what other "better ways" did you find. Just curious as I'm trying
to eak out a few bucks from Iowa Outdoors. And please don't say Google
Ads...I've managed to get banned from that already ;-)

--Tony

Tom Willett wrote:


>Last person to mess with it was Squatty I believe. I ran it for about 6

>months and got no hits so trashed it and found better ways to get some

>income.

>

>--

>Tom Willett

>tomw at pigstye.net

>

>---------- Original Message -----------

>From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>

>To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:32 -0500

>Subject: [geeklog-devel] Amazon Web Services

>

>

>

>>I noticed the amazon web service stuff here:

>>

>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/gl-webservices

>>

>>My first thought was, "Gee, that sure hasn't been updated in a long

>>time". Then my second thought was, "Hrm, it's still in beta".

>>

>>Does it still work? I'm asking because I want to use it on

>>http://www.iowaoutdoors.org but don't want to monkey with it until I

>>know the code is working with the latest Amazon API.

>>

>>If nobody answers I'll give it a try but I figured I'd try to save

>>myself some time first.

>>

>>--Tony

>>_______________________________________________

>>geeklog-devel mailing list

>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>>

>>

>------- End of Original Message -------

>

>_______________________________________________

>geeklog-devel mailing list

>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

>

>


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Message: 11
From: "Tom Willett" <tomw at pigstye.net>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:20:34 +0000
Reply-To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

Can you add an entry to a subweb like that from your end. I do not run my
own DNS server and do not know. Thats fine with me if you can my IP is

216.153.238.206

--
Tom Willett
tomw at pigstye.net

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:13:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation


> Actually, I wasn't going to redirect. I was going to actually add an

> entry in the DNS zone file. At this point I think I'd prefer to just

> point the DNS to you if you don't mind. If that is OK, send me your IP

> and I'll get it setup.

>

> --Tony

>

> Tom Willett wrote:

>

> >I do not care either. I have not played with it enough to see if it will

> >gracefully handle a redirect from wiki.geeklog.net, but if it would that

> >would be the easiest. I am willing to host it for the time being. I

think

> >we should get it resolved one way or the other quickly though.

> >

> >Geeklog is your baby more than mine and I bow to your preferences.

> >

> >--

> >Tom Willett

> >tomw at pigstye.net

> >

> >---------- Original Message -----------

> >From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>

> >To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> >Sent: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:37:27 -0500

> >Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Documentation

> >

> >

> >

> >>I can host it if you want, that's no problem. Optionally, I could also

> >>simply point wiki.geeklog.net at your server.

> >>

> >>I'm flexible, let me know what is preferred...

> >>

> >>--Tony

> >>

> >>Tom Willett wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>Ok, its been discussed enough and nothing has been done, so I am going

to

> >>>kickstart the Geeklog Documentation Effort. I have up MediaWiki on my

> >>>webserver and transfered most of the Plugin Developers Handbook to it.

I

> >>>never understood all the talk about wikis -- this one allows easy

> >>>

> >>>

> >insertion

> >

> >

> >>>of images stored on the server and adequate markup. I mean its not

> >>>

> >>>

> >MSWord

> >

> >

> >>>but its usable.

> >>>

> >>>Before I solicit other participation, hopefully a consolidation of all

> >>>

> >>>

> >the

> >

> >

> >>>documentation efforts, I was wondering if Tony wanted to host it one

the

> >>>Geeklog server.

> >>>

> >>>By the way, they do a neat trick on install. You are asked for mysql

> >>>database name, user, password and optionally the root password. If you

> >>>supply the root password it will make the database, tables and user

with

> >>>correct permissions for you.

> >>>

> >>>Install and transfering most of the Plugin Developers Handbook took

about

> >>>

> >>>

> >1

> >

> >

> >>>hour.

> >>>

> >>>Unless I hear from Tony that he wants to host it or some objection, I

> >>>

> >>>

> >will

> >

> >

> >>>solicit submissions and announce it soon.

> >>>

> >>>--

> >>>Tom Willett

> >>>tomw at pigstye.net

> >>>

> >>>_______________________________________________

> >>>geeklog-devel mailing list

> >>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> >>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>_______________________________________________

> >>geeklog-devel mailing list

> >>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

> >>

> >>

> >------- End of Original Message -------

> >

> >_______________________________________________

> >geeklog-devel mailing list

> >geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

> >

> >

> _______________________________________________

> geeklog-devel mailing list

> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net

> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel

------- End of Original Message -------



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