[geeklog-modules] Suggested CSS standards for plugins

[Simon Lord]

No hot button Tom, more of a panic button.  You saw through our efforts 
before we intended to release them and I just wanted to prevent any 
enterprising pups from interpreting your post as something which hasn't 
been done and going off on a tangent and doing something about it.

So, no ill will towards you or your post.  And I'm not suggesting *you* 
would start an effort to create a common template, but you really read 
through the lines on Blaine's post quite easily, and followed that up 
with such a clear response that you pretty much outted us before we 
were ready to present our efforts.

I guess that's the point I was trying to make.  But I suck at writing 
clearly so there ya go.


On Dec 1, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Tom wrote:


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> Subject: Re: [geeklog-modules] Suggested CSS standards for plugins

>

> I say hurrah.  I would even go so far as to suggest a common set of 

> generic templates.  Providing and requiring the use of a more 

> consistent GUI would make it easier for everyone - Programmers, 

> Themers and Users alike.  Of course to make it work it will have to be 

> well documented.

>

> The templates already exist. However, no one has the time at the 

> moment to document it all. Dirk is maintaining/supporting it to a 

> degree but I haven't had any free time lately. I've been working with 

> Blaine to help him update the forum and we figured it would be easier 

> to weasel in our efforts slowly by integrating a subset of the work 

> we've done to date on the templates just on the forum specifically.

>

> The issue at hand is that maintaining a module as complex as the forum 

> is a real pain in the ass if it's not somehow tied to the theme. What 

> I mean by this is that lots of Geeklog users put some solid hours into 

> designing creative themes only to have that work thoroughly VOIDED by 

> a non compliant module because they are NOT designed to be theme 

> friendly. So Blaine and I spent the better part of a year trying to 

> solve this issue through css.

>

> The idea is to *suggest* to module developers to use an approved list 

> of css tags that would be tied into the entire theme. This way simply 

> dropping a new module into any GL installation would result in that 

> module INSTANTLY looking like the current overall theme of the site 

> and saving the site owner hours if not days of hard work.

>

> That said, understand that all this work is already done, please don't 

> go and try to create some common set of generic templates and css 

> standards. Blaine and I spent a year doing this already (with Dirk's 

> loving approval). I just need some free time to create a design 

> document for it, hopefully Blaine can create something on a smaller 

> scale for module developers while I author one for theme 

> developers.(?)

>

> Maybe during the Holidays?

>

>

> --

>  Tom Willett

> tomw at pigstye.net

>

> Sincerely,

> Simon

>  

> Maybe you misunderstood, I was simply saying that I applaud the effort 

> to make things easier and more uniform and encouraging more such 

> work.  Excuse if I hit a hot button. 

>

Sincerely,
Simon
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