From e at marinx.com  Mon Mar  1 01:25:46 2004
From: e at marinx.com (ed)
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:25:46 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] Images as Blobs in MySQL?
Message-ID: <4042D76A.7090301@marinx.com>

Has anyone experimented with storing images and files as BLOBS in MySQL?
I've repeated heard that both MSSQL and MySQL (rdbms in general) suffer 
big performance hits when using blobs.

Can it be done?
I'm finding that every time I want to make a copy of a site, move a 
site, or update a site, I have to deal with being very careful to either 
ignore or include a bunch of files, images, attachments, etc.

It would be so much more elegant to truly separate CONTENT from 
Structure by keeping ALL content in the DB.

Here's HOW to do it on Devx, but no idea if it's viable.
http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/MySQL/Blobbing-Data-With-PHP-and-MySQL/1/




From webmaster at ohna.org  Mon Mar  1 12:35:13 2004
From: webmaster at ohna.org (OHNA Webmaster)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:35:13 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com>
Message-ID: <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>

I am having a very strange issue that I hope that someone has seen 
before or maybe has an ideas of what is going on.

I do all my development on the Mac and test regularly in Safari and IE5 
for mac.  I also test on Netscape for Win because that is all we use.  
Since my GL site is going live on Saturday, I figured I'd better do 
some testing on IE6 for Win.

Everything seems to work great EXCEPT for Most (not all) of the static 
pages.  Rather than load the static page, the screen clears (no header 
or left pane) and the screen fills with brown coloring.  It fills the 
screen in about 1 1/2" chunks and then when the page is full, it clears 
it out and starts over.  Meanwhile, IE6 and the rest of the computer is 
locked up.  Sometimes I can quite IE, and other times I have to shut 
off the machine.

The static pages are in HTML that I wrote in DreamWeaver and then 
pasted into GL.  However some of the pages with dream weaver code work 
just fine and on the broken ones, I tried stripping out all but the 
most basic HTML and I still get the brown screen.

Does anyone have ideas?

You can view the site at http://www.flashcasters.net/gl

Thanks,

Chris



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Mon Mar  1 12:49:42 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:49:42 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
Message-ID: <00dc01c3ffb5$9379eab0$650a10ac@XPBL2>

I would think it has something to do with the background image. I had the
same results. Try removing that to start and then I'd try a basic static
page to see if that also fails.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "OHNA Webmaster" <webmaster at ohna.org>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win


> I am having a very strange issue that I hope that someone has seen
> before or maybe has an ideas of what is going on.
>
> I do all my development on the Mac and test regularly in Safari and IE5
> for mac.  I also test on Netscape for Win because that is all we use.
> Since my GL site is going live on Saturday, I figured I'd better do
> some testing on IE6 for Win.
>
> Everything seems to work great EXCEPT for Most (not all) of the static
> pages.  Rather than load the static page, the screen clears (no header
> or left pane) and the screen fills with brown coloring.  It fills the
> screen in about 1 1/2" chunks and then when the page is full, it clears
> it out and starts over.  Meanwhile, IE6 and the rest of the computer is
> locked up.  Sometimes I can quite IE, and other times I have to shut
> off the machine.
>
> The static pages are in HTML that I wrote in DreamWeaver and then
> pasted into GL.  However some of the pages with dream weaver code work
> just fine and on the broken ones, I tried stripping out all but the
> most basic HTML and I still get the brown screen.
>
> Does anyone have ideas?
>
> You can view the site at http://www.flashcasters.net/gl
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From limynali at ripplefx.net  Mon Mar  1 12:55:30 2004
From: limynali at ripplefx.net (Limynali)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:55:30 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
Message-ID: <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net>

I tried it with Mozilla FireFox and IE6 on my Windows XP box and they 
both displayed correctly.

OHNA Webmaster wrote:

> I am having a very strange issue that I hope that someone has seen 
> before or maybe has an ideas of what is going on.
>
> I do all my development on the Mac and test regularly in Safari and 
> IE5 for mac.  I also test on Netscape for Win because that is all we 
> use.  Since my GL site is going live on Saturday, I figured I'd better 
> do some testing on IE6 for Win.
>
> Everything seems to work great EXCEPT for Most (not all) of the static 
> pages.  Rather than load the static page, the screen clears (no header 
> or left pane) and the screen fills with brown coloring.  It fills the 
> screen in about 1 1/2" chunks and then when the page is full, it 
> clears it out and starts over.  Meanwhile, IE6 and the rest of the 
> computer is locked up.  Sometimes I can quite IE, and other times I 
> have to shut off the machine.
>
> The static pages are in HTML that I wrote in DreamWeaver and then 
> pasted into GL.  However some of the pages with dream weaver code work 
> just fine and on the broken ones, I tried stripping out all but the 
> most basic HTML and I still get the brown screen.
>
> Does anyone have ideas?
>
> You can view the site at http://www.flashcasters.net/gl
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From limynali at ripplefx.net  Mon Mar  1 12:58:27 2004
From: limynali at ripplefx.net (Limynali)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:58:27 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net>
Message-ID: <404379C3.5090505@ripplefx.net>

Oops. I spoke too soon. Man that looked up my whole computer! :-)

Limynali wrote:

> I tried it with Mozilla FireFox and IE6 on my Windows XP box and they 
> both displayed correctly.




From webmaster at ohna.org  Mon Mar  1 13:07:10 2004
From: webmaster at ohna.org (OHNA Webmaster)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:07:10 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <00dc01c3ffb5$9379eab0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <00dc01c3ffb5$9379eab0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
Message-ID: <42208DCA-6BAB-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>

Blaine--

The static pages that don't work don't have a background image 
(although the pages _with_ background pix work fine)

I tried just basic text and that worked fine.

I also tried very simple HTML-- nothing but <p> and <a> tags.  That 
worked fine.  Must be something in the HTML code that IE6 doesn't like.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Chris
On Mar 1, 2004, at 12:49 PM, Blaine Lang wrote:

> I would think it has something to do with the background image. I had 
> the
> same results. Try removing that to start and then I'd try a basic 
> static
> page to see if that also fails.
>
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OHNA Webmaster" <webmaster at ohna.org>
> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:35 PM
> Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
>
>
>> I am having a very strange issue that I hope that someone has seen
>> before or maybe has an ideas of what is going on.
>>
>> I do all my development on the Mac and test regularly in Safari and 
>> IE5
>> for mac.  I also test on Netscape for Win because that is all we use.
>> Since my GL site is going live on Saturday, I figured I'd better do
>> some testing on IE6 for Win.
>>
>> Everything seems to work great EXCEPT for Most (not all) of the static
>> pages.  Rather than load the static page, the screen clears (no header
>> or left pane) and the screen fills with brown coloring.  It fills the
>> screen in about 1 1/2" chunks and then when the page is full, it 
>> clears
>> it out and starts over.  Meanwhile, IE6 and the rest of the computer 
>> is
>> locked up.  Sometimes I can quite IE, and other times I have to shut
>> off the machine.
>>
>> The static pages are in HTML that I wrote in DreamWeaver and then
>> pasted into GL.  However some of the pages with dream weaver code work
>> just fine and on the broken ones, I tried stripping out all but the
>> most basic HTML and I still get the brown screen.
>>
>> Does anyone have ideas?
>>
>> You can view the site at http://www.flashcasters.net/gl
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-users mailing list
>> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From webmaster at ohna.org  Mon Mar  1 13:08:01 2004
From: webmaster at ohna.org (OHNA Webmaster)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:08:01 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <404379C3.5090505@ripplefx.net>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net> <404379C3.5090505@ripplefx.net>
Message-ID: <60AA4F8D-6BAB-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>

   Was it just IE6 on Winxp that locked you up or was it any of the 
other browsers?

Chris


On Mar 1, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Limynali wrote:

> Oops. I spoke too soon. Man that looked up my whole computer! :-)
>
> Limynali wrote:
>
>> I tried it with Mozilla FireFox and IE6 on my Windows XP box and they 
>> both displayed correctly.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From limynali at ripplefx.net  Mon Mar  1 13:18:50 2004
From: limynali at ripplefx.net (Limynali)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:18:50 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <60AA4F8D-6BAB-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net> <404379C3.5090505@ripplefx.net> <60AA4F8D-6BAB-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
Message-ID: <40437E8A.5040802@ripplefx.net>

Just IE6.  Mozilla handled it like a champ. :-)

I didn't see the stripes you were talking about, it got as far as 
changing my scrollbar then IE locked my whole system. 

OHNA Webmaster wrote:

>   Was it just IE6 on Winxp that locked you up or was it any of the 
> other browsers?
>
> Chris
>



From webmaster at ohna.org  Mon Mar  1 13:34:11 2004
From: webmaster at ohna.org (OHNA Webmaster)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:34:11 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <40437E8A.5040802@ripplefx.net>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <40437912.4010905@ripplefx.net> <404379C3.5090505@ripplefx.net> <60AA4F8D-6BAB-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org> <40437E8A.5040802@ripplefx.net>
Message-ID: <08BEA21C-6BAF-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>

What exactly does "All HTML is allowed" mean?

Does that mean ALL HTML or only that which was specified in conf.php?  
Once I stripped down my code to only tags on the list in conf.php, all 
was fine with the static pages.

Until Lymynali mentioned it, I hadn't noticed that the scroll bars go 
brown.  I don't use Win very much and I thought it was part of the XP 
theming.  However, with some testing, all other sites I visited had 
blue scroll bars.  The scrollbars go brown just as soon as the GL index 
page loads.  Any ideas what THAT is about?

Is IE6 always this fussy?

Thanks,

Chris



From woklist at charter.net  Mon Mar  1 14:03:48 2004
From: woklist at charter.net (William K)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:03:48 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem in IE6 for Win
In-Reply-To: <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
References: <40424737.2020403@marinx.com> <CBA81C51-6BA6-11D8-BAD3-000A958840F6@ohna.org>
Message-ID: <2BBEE533-6BB3-11D8-B098-000A95DB713E@charter.net>

Chris,

I was just curious and took a look (also a Mac GL user - intranet 
site).  I can see a potential general problem when I looked at the 
code: there are multiple blocks of <html> ... </html> on all your pages 
(for the static page AND for the ads).  I'm pretty sure this is illegal 
in html code.  Many browsers may overlook it, but IE 6 may not like it. 
  My guess would be, since IE 6 is OK with the ads doing this, that it's 
the style sheets in the static page.  Or maybe the ads aren't enough to 
tip IE 6 over the edge.

Try fixing the multiple html thing and see if that helps.


just my thoughts on this...


On Mar 1, 2004, at 11:35 AM, OHNA Webmaster wrote:

> I am having a very strange issue that I hope that someone has seen 
> before or maybe has an ideas of what is going on.
>
> I do all my development on the Mac and test regularly in Safari and 
> IE5 for mac.  I also test on Netscape for Win because that is all we 
> use.  Since my GL site is going live on Saturday, I figured I'd better 
> do some testing on IE6 for Win.
>
> Everything seems to work great EXCEPT for Most (not all) of the static 
> pages.  Rather than load the static page, the screen clears (no header 
> or left pane) and the screen fills with brown coloring.  It fills the 
> screen in about 1 1/2" chunks and then when the page is full, it 
> clears it out and starts over.  Meanwhile, IE6 and the rest of the 
> computer is locked up.  Sometimes I can quite IE, and other times I 
> have to shut off the machine.
>
> The static pages are in HTML that I wrote in DreamWeaver and then 
> pasted into GL.  However some of the pages with dream weaver code work 
> just fine and on the broken ones, I tried stripping out all but the 
> most basic HTML and I still get the brown screen.
>
> Does anyone have ideas?
>
> You can view the site at http://www.flashcasters.net/gl
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>
>
-----
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http://webpages.charter.net/kyngchaos/

"History is an illusion caused by the passage of time, and time is an 
illusion caused by the passage of history."

- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy



From e at marinx.com  Tue Mar  2 18:40:14 2004
From: e at marinx.com (Ed)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:40:14 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] EmailStories User Defaults
Message-ID: <01ef01c400af$b5fe1160$0a32a8c0@theth>

I have set up all the config.php settings to default users to receive
emailed new stories.

I have a problem with new users not getting default story Topics:

gl_userprefs / emailstories  is set to = 1 for any new user that signs up

BUT

gl_userindex / etids  is always blank for any new user

(Users are approved by root admin into a member site using moderation.php)


Any idea why the emailstories is OK but the ETIDS is not?

Thanks



From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar  3 14:10:12 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:10:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] EmailStories User Defaults
In-Reply-To: <01ef01c400af$b5fe1160$0a32a8c0@theth>
References: <01ef01c400af$b5fe1160$0a32a8c0@theth>
Message-ID: <20040303191012.22217@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ed,

>gl_userprefs / emailstories  is set to = 1 for any new user that signs up

That field isn't used in Geeklog ...


>gl_userindex / etids  is always blank for any new user

This is the field that's used for sending the Daily Digest. If it's
empty, it means that the user is subscribed to all topics.

The default for new users is set in config.php:

// New users get stories emailed to them per default (= 1) or not (= 0)
$_CONF['emailstoriesperdefault'] = 0;


Please note that there's a bug in all versions prior to 1.3.9 where
batch-added users will be subscribed to the Daily Digest, even if the
default is not to subscribe them.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.macosx-faq.de/



From e at marinx.com  Wed Mar  3 14:42:35 2004
From: e at marinx.com (Ed)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:42:35 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] EmailStories User Defaults
In-Reply-To: <20040303191012.22217@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <005401c40157$ad5221c0$0a32a8c0@theth>

Thanks for your reply Dirk.

A couple more questions to clarify all this:

 : >gl_userprefs / emailstories  is set to = 1 for any new user  that signs
up
 : That field isn't used in Geeklog ...

(assuming emailstoriesperdefault = 1)
Ok, so when a user goes into preferences and TURNS OFF email notification on
all topics where is this setting stored?
And if the admin adds new topics in the future, will the user get them?



 : >gl_userindex / etids  is always blank for any new user
 : This is the field that's used for sending the Daily Digest. If it's
 : empty, it means that the user is subscribed to all topics.

Ahhhh.  So this means that no matter when a user joined the site, and the
ETIDS is blank, any new topics that are added to the site later will still
send emails out to the user (if emailstories... is =1)


 : The default for new users is set in config.php:
 : // New users get stories emailed to them per default (= 1) or not (= 0)
 : $_CONF['emailstoriesperdefault'] = 0;



From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar  3 15:09:57 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:09:57 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] EmailStories User Defaults
In-Reply-To: <005401c40157$ad5221c0$0a32a8c0@theth>
References: <005401c40157$ad5221c0$0a32a8c0@theth>
Message-ID: <20040303200957.17042@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ed,

>Ok, so when a user goes into preferences and TURNS OFF email notification on
>all topics where is this setting stored?

In etids. It's set to '-' then.


>And if the admin adds new topics in the future, will the user get them?

Not when it's '-'.


>Ahhhh.  So this means that no matter when a user joined the site, and the
>ETIDS is blank, any new topics that are added to the site later will still
>send emails out to the user (if emailstories... is =1)

Yep.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.tinyweb.de/



From limynali at ripplefx.net  Wed Mar  3 19:41:33 2004
From: limynali at ripplefx.net (Limynali)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:41:33 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
Message-ID: <40467B3D.2010502@ripplefx.net>

Could someone tell me how to turn off forum post notification? I 
accidentally clicked a link that signed me up for emails eveytime a new 
post is made to the gl forums. I'm real sorry if this is easily found 
somewhere but I've searched all over but I can't seem to find where to 
turn it off.  

BTW it would be nice if the email notification had a link directly to 
turn it off. :-)

Thanks!
Carolyn

 



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Wed Mar  3 20:07:27 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:07:27 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
References: <40467B3D.2010502@ripplefx.net>
Message-ID: <011501c40185$0f4450b0$650a10ac@XPBL2>

Login to your geeklog.net account and access your User ForumOptions page. 
You can view/edit/delete your subscriptions there.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Limynali" <limynali at ripplefx.net>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:41 PM
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?


> Could someone tell me how to turn off forum post notification? I 
> accidentally clicked a link that signed me up for emails eveytime a new 
> post is made to the gl forums. I'm real sorry if this is easily found 
> somewhere but I've searched all over but I can't seem to find where to 
> turn it off.  
> 
> BTW it would be nice if the email notification had a link directly to 
> turn it off. :-)
> 
> Thanks!
> Carolyn
> 
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users


From vanslyck at ripplefx.net  Wed Mar  3 20:30:55 2004
From: vanslyck at ripplefx.net (Carolyn Van Slyck)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 19:30:55 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
In-Reply-To: <011501c40185$0f4450b0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
References: <40467B3D.2010502@ripplefx.net> <011501c40185$0f4450b0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
Message-ID: <404686CF.60202@ripplefx.net>

Gosh, I totally missed that bar at the top.  Sorry to bother you guys. :-P

Blaine Lang wrote:

>Login to your geeklog.net account and access your User ForumOptions page. 
>You can view/edit/delete your subscriptions there.
>
>Blaine
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Limynali" <limynali at ripplefx.net>
>To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:41 PM
>Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
>
>
>  
>
>>Could someone tell me how to turn off forum post notification? I 
>>accidentally clicked a link that signed me up for emails eveytime a new 
>>post is made to the gl forums. I'm real sorry if this is easily found 
>>somewhere but I've searched all over but I can't seem to find where to 
>>turn it off.  
>>
>>BTW it would be nice if the email notification had a link directly to 
>>turn it off. :-)
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Carolyn
>>
>> 
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>geeklog-users mailing list
>>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>geeklog-users mailing list
>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>
>  
>



From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Thu Mar  4 05:45:55 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:45:55 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
Message-ID: <s047090b.074@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi there

Just a quick question which I hope is not something obvious that I have
overlooked. 

Is it possible to have the login displayed in the "centre area" of
geeklog (ie not in a block) when someone clicks on any links that leads
to something that requires the user to login?

At the moment I have set up a block that contains links to pages which
requires the user to be logged in. When one clicks on the link this
message is displayed: Access to this page is denied. Either the page has
been moved/removed or you do not have sufficient permissions. Rather
than this I would like a login screen to be displayed. Is this possible
at the moment?

Thanks
Jannetta

====
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434


From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Thu Mar  4 22:27:14 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:27:14 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
References: <s047090b.074@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <002601c40261$c11ccd30$650a10ac@XPBL2>

It is but not out of the box. If you enter an incorrect password, you will
get a login form that is now in the center. It's possible to link to this
page and modify the template to meet requirements.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jannetta Lewis" <Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?


> Hi there
>
> Just a quick question which I hope is not something obvious that I have
> overlooked.
>
> Is it possible to have the login displayed in the "centre area" of
> geeklog (ie not in a block) when someone clicks on any links that leads
> to something that requires the user to login?
>
> At the moment I have set up a block that contains links to pages which
> requires the user to be logged in. When one clicks on the link this
> message is displayed: Access to this page is denied. Either the page has
> been moved/removed or you do not have sufficient permissions. Rather
> than this I would like a login screen to be displayed. Is this possible
> at the moment?
>
> Thanks
> Jannetta
>
> ====
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users



From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Fri Mar  5 05:59:08 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:59:08 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?
Message-ID: <s0485d95.027@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi Blaine

Thank you very much, that works fine for me. I am just updating the
language files to have a link in the text to the login page.

Jannetta

====
New College Durham
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434

>>> geeklog at langfamily.ca 03/05/04 03:27am >>>
It is but not out of the box. If you enter an incorrect password, you
will
get a login form that is now in the center. It's possible to link to
this
page and modify the template to meet requirements.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jannetta Lewis" <Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Turn off forum post notification?


> Hi there
>
> Just a quick question which I hope is not something obvious that I
have
> overlooked.
>
> Is it possible to have the login displayed in the "centre area" of
> geeklog (ie not in a block) when someone clicks on any links that
leads
> to something that requires the user to login?
>
> At the moment I have set up a block that contains links to pages
which
> requires the user to be logged in. When one clicks on the link this
> message is displayed: Access to this page is denied. Either the page
has
> been moved/removed or you do not have sufficient permissions. Rather
> than this I would like a login screen to be displayed. Is this
possible
> at the moment?
>
> Thanks
> Jannetta
>
> ====
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users 

_______________________________________________
geeklog-users mailing list
geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users


From perry at paducktions.net  Sun Mar 14 17:55:12 2004
From: perry at paducktions.net (Per Oskar Isdahl)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:55:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] www.geeklog.net not valid html 4.01
Message-ID: <20040314235512.329ad8e9@delta.paducktions.net>

This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.geeklog.net

isn't this bad?

-- 
Per Oskar Isdahl
perry at paducktions.net
Linux user #140587
(http://counter.li.org)
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 14 18:16:25 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:16:25 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] www.geeklog.net not valid html 4.01
In-Reply-To: <20040314235512.329ad8e9@delta.paducktions.net>
References: <20040314235512.329ad8e9@delta.paducktions.net>
Message-ID: <20040314231625.25150@smtp.haun-online.de>

>This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.geeklog.net
>
>isn't this bad?

It's not exactly bad, but certainly could be better.

It's not too hard to create a valid Geeklog site[1], but it does require
some discipline when posting and you can't assume that all of your users
will produce valid HTML in their stories / comments.

Also, some of the plugins don't exactly produce valid HTML either (for
example, many of the errors on geeklog.net seem to be caused by the forum
block).

bye, Dirk

[1] try <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macosx-faq.de>


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.tinyweb.de/



From wooge at axonz.com  Sun Mar 14 19:16:33 2004
From: wooge at axonz.com (wOOge)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:16:33 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] www.geeklog.net not valid html 4.01
In-Reply-To: <20040314231625.25150@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20040314235512.329ad8e9@delta.paducktions.net> <20040314231625.25150@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <03EDF1D4-7616-11D8-8C42-000A95A513F4@axonz.com>

In my theme, i did the best i could to produce 4.01 compliant code, but 
like Dirk said, it's hard to moderate the quality of 3rd party code, 
and posters.

-wOOge


On Mar 14, 2004, at 6:16 PM, Dirk Haun wrote:

>> This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
>> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.geeklog.net
>>
>> isn't this bad?
>
> It's not exactly bad, but certainly could be better.
>
> It's not too hard to create a valid Geeklog site[1], but it does 
> require
> some discipline when posting and you can't assume that all of your 
> users
> will produce valid HTML in their stories / comments.
>
> Also, some of the plugins don't exactly produce valid HTML either (for
> example, many of the errors on geeklog.net seem to be caused by the 
> forum
> block).
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> [1] try 
> <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macosx-faq.de>
>
>
> -- 
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://www.tinyweb.de/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Sun Mar 14 20:42:01 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:42:01 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] www.geeklog.net not valid html 4.01
References: <20040314235512.329ad8e9@delta.paducktions.net> <20040314231625.25150@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <001a01c40a2e$b69073b0$650a10ac@XPBL2>

As the author of a few of the plugins - I can say there is always room for
improvement. I have to admit this has not been a focus of mine but my
knowledge of HTML and CSS has been improving so I will work towards
addressing some of these exceptions.

One that I see right away would be to use &amp in the URL string for passing
GET VARS.

The forum uses HTML templates so it should be easy for someone to make any
necessary edits should this be an issue for them.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] www.geeklog.net not valid html 4.01


> >This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
> >http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.geeklog.net
> >
> >isn't this bad?
>
> It's not exactly bad, but certainly could be better.
>
> It's not too hard to create a valid Geeklog site[1], but it does require
> some discipline when posting and you can't assume that all of your users
> will produce valid HTML in their stories / comments.
>
> Also, some of the plugins don't exactly produce valid HTML either (for
> example, many of the errors on geeklog.net seem to be caused by the forum
> block).
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> [1] try <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macosx-faq.de>
>
>
> -- 
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://www.tinyweb.de/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From steve at finagle.org  Thu Mar 18 14:50:29 2004
From: steve at finagle.org (Steve Sloan)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:50:29 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] Polls and PNGs
Message-ID: <4059FD85.5090606@finagle.org>

Howdy, all.  This is my first post to the mailing list, with a few 
questions I came across while setting-up Geeklog for my family and band 
websites.  I'm not sure if GL is the best choice, as both are more 
"article" than "news" oriented, but it should at least provide a good basis.

Anyway, my questions:

(1) Is there any way to close a poll, such that the results are still 
listed, but no more votes are accepted?

(2) What's with the GIFs?  My theme uses only PNGs, but there are still 
several hard-coded GIF URLs in the code.  Shouldn't PNG be standard?

Thanks ...

-- Steve


From wooge at axonz.com  Thu Mar 18 15:09:03 2004
From: wooge at axonz.com (wOOge)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:09:03 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] Polls and PNGs
In-Reply-To: <4059FD85.5090606@finagle.org>
References: <4059FD85.5090606@finagle.org>
Message-ID: <1A1BAC24-7918-11D8-84BF-000393197E7E@axonz.com>

hey steve, great to see you trying out GL!
a quick and dirty answer to the gif/png  issue is that, sadly support 
for pngs in IE for PC is flaky at best.
being a mac user  i completely agree that pngs are the way to go, but 
even in my theme, i make all the graphics gif, at least until IE(PC) 
joins the 21st century.
cheers,
-wOOge

On Mar 18, 2004, at 2:50 PM, Steve Sloan wrote:

> Howdy, all.  This is my first post to the mailing list, with a few 
> questions I came across while setting-up Geeklog for my family and 
> band websites.  I'm not sure if GL is the best choice, as both are 
> more "article" than "news" oriented, but it should at least provide a 
> good basis.
>
> Anyway, my questions:
>
> (1) Is there any way to close a poll, such that the results are still 
> listed, but no more votes are accepted?
>
> (2) What's with the GIFs?  My theme uses only PNGs, but there are 
> still several hard-coded GIF URLs in the code.  Shouldn't PNG be 
> standard?
>
> Thanks ...
>
> -- Steve
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>
--

wOOge  |  www.axonz.com




From steve at finagle.org  Thu Mar 18 17:25:18 2004
From: steve at finagle.org (Steve Sloan)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [geeklog-users] Polls and PNGs
In-Reply-To: <1A1BAC24-7918-11D8-84BF-000393197E7E@axonz.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403181424210.22744-100000@foo.finagle.org>

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, wOOge wrote:


wOOge wrote:

> a quick and dirty answer to the gif/png  issue is that, sadly support 
> for pngs in IE for PC is flaky at best.

I've heard that alpha and gamma support were b0rken (I'm sure it's all
Greek to MS ;) ), but I thought that it still included basic support,
enough to ditch GIF ... ?

O.k., I see that IE doesn't support alpha [0], can't print [1], and
doesn't like 4k images [2] (wtf?!).  And while proper alpha support would
make building themes *lots* easier, GIF doesn't support it either.

>From my point of view, IE seems to support PNG as well as it supports
GIF, and I for one am willing to risk it.  Furthermore, I'd rather just
do things the Right Way, and let the brokenness force MS to fix IE, or
else force people to get an actual "web browser"[3].  But maybe I'm just
bastardly. ;)

-- Steve

[0] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;219223
[1] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255239
[2] http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;822071
[3] http://ashitaka-san.home.comcast.net/yayrant/ieharmful.html




From lgonze at panix.com  Fri Mar 19 18:17:04 2004
From: lgonze at panix.com (Lucas Gonze)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:17:04 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] comments example?
Message-ID: <890248E9-79FB-11D8-9A7C-000393455590@panix.com>

hey folks,

I want to add comment support to my plugin and am looking for an 
example of somebody else's working code to start from.   Does anybody 
know of an open-source plugin with comment support?

Thanks.

- Lucas



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Fri Mar 19 18:40:05 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:40:05 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] comments example?
References: <890248E9-79FB-11D8-9A7C-000393455590@panix.com>
Message-ID: <009a01c40e0b$81ea6db0$650a10ac@XPBL2>

Lucas,

If you have not already - review the Plugin Developers Guide. There is a
section on using the Comment Engine
http://gplugs.sourceforge.net/pluginman/CommentAPI.php

The FileMgmt Plugin that I developed was the first plugin to use these API's
so it's an example but it also was my first plugin and I may not do things a
bit different. Member amcklay has developed a personal plugin that used the
Comment API's.

Regards,
Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze at panix.com>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: [geeklog-users] comments example?


> hey folks,
>
> I want to add comment support to my plugin and am looking for an
> example of somebody else's working code to start from.   Does anybody
> know of an open-source plugin with comment support?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Lucas
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users



From robg at griffsweb.com  Sat Mar 20 22:49:06 2004
From: robg at griffsweb.com (Rob Griffiths)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:49:06 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] 1.3.9 upgrade issues...
Message-ID: <B389B0E2-7AEA-11D8-8673-000A9599CF26@griffsweb.com>

I'm stumped and in need of help. I've search geeklog.net, and posted in 
the forums, and tried IRC, but no luck thus far.  I was hoping to spend 
some time this weekend getting at least my local box running 1.3.9, in 
order to work on migrating the main site.  Alas, after a number of 
upgrade attempts, I've had to give up.  Any and all help would be 
appreciated; here's the scenario:

On my OS X machine, I've created a new GL139 directory, and placed all 
the new GL139 files in the right spots (no legacy stuff from my site, 
just new files). config.php and lib-common.php are edited correctly, 
and all files can be found, etc.  My machine is running MySQL 4.0.16, 
and PHP version 4.3.2. I know it works properly, as I have a local copy 
of Geeklog 1.3.7sr2 that I use every day.

On the MySQL side, I created a new blank "gl139test" database. Then I 
mysqldumped my live data from macosxhints.com, and imported it to the 
test database (which is basically be a GL1.3.7sr2 site). So far so 
good.  Now I'm technically ready to run the upgrade-install in GL139. I 
do that, specify the path, set it to upgrade, etc.

Problem #1: The system comes back and tells me "Table 
gl139test.staticpage does not exist."  This is true; I don't have the 
staticpage table on the main hints site (never used it, so I never 
installed it, and prior upgrades never added it). Thinking I can 
outsmart the installer, I open the SQL file for the GL139 clean install 
(in the SQL folder), and find the staticpage table definition. A quick 
copy/paste later, and I now have a staticpage table.  So I quit and 
restart the installer, again in upgrade mode, etc. etc. etc.

Problem #2: Now the installer comes back and says "Duplicate column 
sp_inblock in gl139test.staticpage."  Grrr, highly frustrating. So I 
try to help it again, and delete that column from the staticpage table. 
  I rerun the installer, etc. and now ... it seems to work!  I get the 
success page, and it shows the NewAdmin account message, etc.

Problem #3: When I attempt to login with NewAdmin, I get an SQL error. 
Digging in the logs, I see this:

    "Fri Mar 19 17:41:24 2004 - 1054: Unknown column 'pwrequestid' in 
'field list'. SQL in question: UPDATE users SET pwrequestid = 'NULL' 
WHERE username = 'NewAdmin'"

I look, and sure enough, there's no pwrequestid field. So I copy/paste 
from the SQL master file to create it, and then try to login again. 
This time, in the error log, I get:

    "Fri Mar 19 17:45:28 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL 
syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version 
for the right syntax to use near? at line 1. SQL in question: DELETE 
FROM sessions WHERE uid ="

And this is where I'm stuck. I've dropped and re-imported the database 
at least five times now, and I don't know what else to try. I've search 
geeklog.net, and the only instances of "pwrequestid" I found was one 
where you replied that it was a problem with the way the user ran the 
installer.  Now I've installed Geeklog probably 100 times over the 
years, so I think I understand the process and I don't think I'm 
screwing up (but that's why I provided all this detail, in case you see 
something I missed).

Any thoughts on (a) what's going wrong, and (b) (more impportant) how I 
can get through the installer?

Help......

-rob.


From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 21 12:46:19 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:46:19 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] 1.3.9 upgrade issues...
In-Reply-To: <B389B0E2-7AEA-11D8-8673-000A9599CF26@griffsweb.com>
References: <B389B0E2-7AEA-11D8-8673-000A9599CF26@griffsweb.com>
Message-ID: <20040321174619.21625@smtp.haun-online.de>

Rob,

>I'm stumped and in need of help. I've search geeklog.net, and posted in 
>the forums, and tried IRC, but no luck thus far.

Yeah, sorry. I've been AFK a lot this week and still trying to catch up
with my email. So everything that requires more than a "RTFM" just had to
wait ...


>Problem #1: The system comes back and tells me "Table 
>gl139test.staticpage does not exist."  This is true; I don't have the 
>staticpage table on the main hints site (never used it, so I never 
>installed it, and prior upgrades never added it).

The installer tries to upgrade static pages without checking if it is
actually installed. Since you're probably the only person on this planet
not using it ;-) this hasn't been noticed before.


>Thinking I can 
>outsmart the installer, I open the SQL file for the GL139 clean install 
>(in the SQL folder), and find the staticpage table definition. A quick 
>copy/paste later, and I now have a staticpage table.

Good idea, but wrong version. Since you're coming from 1.3.7, your static
pages table also has to come from that version.

So either use the SQL for the 1.3.7 version of the static pages or just
remove the piece of code from the install script that handles the static
pages plugin.


>    "Fri Mar 19 17:45:28 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL 
>syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version 
>for the right syntax to use near" at line 1. SQL in question: DELETE 
>FROM sessions WHERE uid ="

This seems to come from lib-sessions.php, where it's trying to create a
new session for you (in function SESS_newSession). Not sure what the
problem might be, though.

Try to rule out the usual login problems (cookie problems, whitespace).
If that doesn't help, set $_SESS_VERBOSE = true (in lib-sessions.php) and
see if the debug output in error.log gives you any hints.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://geeklog.info/



From fabrizio at air2bite.net  Sun Mar 21 18:01:52 2004
From: fabrizio at air2bite.net (Fabrizio)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:01:52 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] GL 1.3.9 PEAR email bug
Message-ID: <BDE08F72-7B8B-11D8-9096-000A95E68170@air2bite.net>

On the geeklog 1.3.9, if the email username filed contain a dot ".", 
the email from field will be only an @ and the sendmail or smtl system 
will refuse to send the mail.

  For example, my site name is Nabuk.org and all the registration mail 
or password lost mail are dropped by sendmail or by my smtp server 
because the email has @ as from field
  Also if a user with a login wich has a dot (john.doe) try to send a 
mail, sendmail or the smtp server drop this mail because it have @ as 
from field

  enabling the old mail method in lib-custom.php will solve the problem.
  I can't try to use the standard mail method becouse my provider has 
safe_mode=on
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From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Mon Mar 22 11:50:38 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:50:38 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] switching blocks
Message-ID: <s05f1973.061@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi Folks

I hope I can explain myself adequately here - I'll give it a go ...

Is it currently possible to switch blocks on and off based on menu
items, or links? We want to use geeklog for our intranet (and maybe even
our Internet site). However, we have loads of links, mainly leading to
static pages. So I want to create one block with main menu items and
then have another block that changes, depending on which item you have
clicked, displaying the sub-menu items. This way, the column on the left
with all the blocks stays nice and short. I really hate those web pages
that scrolls down forever!

Does that make sense to anybody?

Regards
Jannetta

====
New College Durham
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434


From tony at tonybibbs.com  Mon Mar 22 12:07:05 2004
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:07:05 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] switching blocks
In-Reply-To: <s05f1973.061@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
References: <s05f1973.061@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <405F1D39.9020209@tonybibbs.com>

You'd have to do this in a PHP block.  From there you could declare any 
PHP global variables you need such as $PHP_SELF, $_REQUEST, $_GET, 
$_POST or, if you are on PHP older than 4.1 $HTTP_POST_VARS and 
$HTTP_GET_VARS.

Also you may want to look into the menu plugin that I have seen but 
haven't tried as it may do this kind of stuff for you.

Either way it is very doable given somone with a little PHP kumg-fu.

Hope that helps.

--Tony

Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> Hi Folks
> 
> I hope I can explain myself adequately here - I'll give it a go ...
> 
> Is it currently possible to switch blocks on and off based on menu
> items, or links? We want to use geeklog for our intranet (and maybe even
> our Internet site). However, we have loads of links, mainly leading to
> static pages. So I want to create one block with main menu items and
> then have another block that changes, depending on which item you have
> clicked, displaying the sub-menu items. This way, the column on the left
> with all the blocks stays nice and short. I really hate those web pages
> that scrolls down forever!
> 
> Does that make sense to anybody?
> 
> Regards
> Jannetta
> 
> ====
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> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
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From lgonze at panix.com  Mon Mar 22 19:13:29 2004
From: lgonze at panix.com (Lucas Gonze)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:13:29 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] comments example?
In-Reply-To: <009a01c40e0b$81ea6db0$650a10ac@XPBL2>
Message-ID: <E950D7CB-7C5E-11D8-A359-000393455590@panix.com>

Aw, man, I asked a FAQ.  That documentation is beautiful and I didn't 
even see it.  My bad.

- Lucas

On Friday, Mar 19, 2004, at 18:40 America/New_York, Blaine Lang wrote:

> Lucas,
>
> If you have not already - review the Plugin Developers Guide. There is 
> a
> section on using the Comment Engine
> http://gplugs.sourceforge.net/pluginman/CommentAPI.php
>
> The FileMgmt Plugin that I developed was the first plugin to use these 
> API's
> so it's an example but it also was my first plugin and I may not do 
> things a
> bit different. Member amcklay has developed a personal plugin that 
> used the
> Comment API's.
>
> Regards,
> Blaine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze at panix.com>
> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 6:17 PM
> Subject: [geeklog-users] comments example?
>
>
>> hey folks,
>>
>> I want to add comment support to my plugin and am looking for an
>> example of somebody else's working code to start from.   Does anybody
>> know of an open-source plugin with comment support?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Lucas
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-users mailing list
>> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Wed Mar 24 05:17:11 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:17:11 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] switching blocks
Message-ID: <s0616052.089@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi Tony

Thanks for your response. I am busy writing a new block and plug-in
that will do the thing. The menu plugin is not quite what I want.

However, I now have a question, since I'm still trying to get my head
around the way Geeklog works. What is the right way of saving a variable
for global access. For the moment I have done something like this, but
I'm sure it is not the right way to do it:

session_start();
$block = $_GET["blockmenu"];
if (isset($block)) {
	$_SESSION["onswitch"]=$block;
} else {
	$block=$_SESSION["onswitch"];
}

I couldn't find an explanation in the docs - did I miss it?

Thanks so long for any help
Jannetta



====
New College Durham
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434

>>> tony at tonybibbs.com 22/03/2004 17:07:05 >>>
You'd have to do this in a PHP block.  From there you could declare any

PHP global variables you need such as $PHP_SELF, $_REQUEST, $_GET, 
$_POST or, if you are on PHP older than 4.1 $HTTP_POST_VARS and 
$HTTP_GET_VARS.

Also you may want to look into the menu plugin that I have seen but 
haven't tried as it may do this kind of stuff for you.

Either way it is very doable given somone with a little PHP kumg-fu.

Hope that helps.

--Tony

Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> Hi Folks
> 
> I hope I can explain myself adequately here - I'll give it a go ...
> 
> Is it currently possible to switch blocks on and off based on menu
> items, or links? We want to use geeklog for our intranet (and maybe
even
> our Internet site). However, we have loads of links, mainly leading
to
> static pages. So I want to create one block with main menu items and
> then have another block that changes, depending on which item you
have
> clicked, displaying the sub-menu items. This way, the column on the
left
> with all the blocks stays nice and short. I really hate those web
pages
> that scrolls down forever!
> 
> Does that make sense to anybody?
> 
> Regards
> Jannetta
> 
> ====
> New College Durham
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users 
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From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Wed Mar 24 10:39:02 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:39:02 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] block titles
Message-ID: <s061abaf.080@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi folks

More questions ... Is it possible to override a php block's title in
the php code?

Jannetta

====
New College Durham
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434


From tony at tonybibbs.com  Wed Mar 24 11:10:40 2004
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:10:40 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] block titles
In-Reply-To: <s061abaf.080@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
References: <s061abaf.080@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1080144640.18795.43.camel@localhost>

Can you explain your scenario a bit.  It is simply you want to
dynamically change the title for the same PHP block?

--Tony

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 09:39, Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> More questions ... Is it possible to override a php block's title in
> the php code?
> 
> Jannetta
> 
> ====
> New College Durham
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users



From Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk  Wed Mar 24 12:36:50 2004
From: Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk (Jannetta Lewis)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:36:50 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-users] block titles
Message-ID: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>

Hi Tony

Yes I want to change the title for the same PHP block dynamically.  I
am writing a plugin that uses two blocks, the first block serves as a
main menu and the second block displaying the sub-menu items for the
selections. So, when a person clicks on a main menu item in the first
block, I display the sub-menu items in the second block. Obviously I
then want to change the title of the block to be the main menu item that
was selected.

(Hope I haven't confused you more than before!)

Jannetta

====
New College Durham
Product Development Co-ordinator
X4434

>>> tony at tonybibbs.com 24/03/2004 16:10:40 >>>
Can you explain your scenario a bit.  It is simply you want to
dynamically change the title for the same PHP block?

--Tony

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 09:39, Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> More questions ... Is it possible to override a php block's title in
> the php code?
> 
> Jannetta
> 
> ====
> New College Durham
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users 

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From tony at tonybibbs.com  Fri Mar 26 10:04:43 2004
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:04:43 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] block titles
In-Reply-To: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
References: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1080313483.22128.19.camel@localhost>

Hrm, yeah, I don't think that is possible.  Right now we data drive the
titles, even for PHP blocks.  A feature request you might want to submit
is allowing for PHP blocks to determine their own title.

--Tony

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 11:36, Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> Hi Tony
> 
> Yes I want to change the title for the same PHP block dynamically.  I
> am writing a plugin that uses two blocks, the first block serves as a
> main menu and the second block displaying the sub-menu items for the
> selections. So, when a person clicks on a main menu item in the first
> block, I display the sub-menu items in the second block. Obviously I
> then want to change the title of the block to be the main menu item that
> was selected.
> 
> (Hope I haven't confused you more than before!)
> 
> Jannetta
> 
> ====
> New College Durham
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
> 
> >>> tony at tonybibbs.com 24/03/2004 16:10:40 >>>
> Can you explain your scenario a bit.  It is simply you want to
> dynamically change the title for the same PHP block?
> 
> --Tony
> 
> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 09:39, Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> > Hi folks
> > 
> > More questions ... Is it possible to override a php block's title in
> > the php code?
> > 
> > Jannetta
> > 
> > ====
> > New College Durham
> > Product Development Co-ordinator
> > X4434
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-users mailing list
> > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
> > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
> 
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net 
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Fri Mar 26 10:39:54 2004
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:39:54 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] block titles
References: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <003701c41348$96427f90$650a10ac@XPBL2>

You would need to modify the code for COM_showBlocks as it currently gets
the name for all users from the database.
As this code extract shows:
   $blkheader = COM_startBlock( $A['title'], $A['help'],
           COM_getBlockTemplate( $A['name'], 'header' ));

The feature is there to apply a custom theme but not a custom title per
block.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jannetta Lewis" <Jannetta.Lewis at newdur.ac.uk>
To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] block titles


> Hi Tony
>
> Yes I want to change the title for the same PHP block dynamically.  I
> am writing a plugin that uses two blocks, the first block serves as a
> main menu and the second block displaying the sub-menu items for the
> selections. So, when a person clicks on a main menu item in the first
> block, I display the sub-menu items in the second block. Obviously I
> then want to change the title of the block to be the main menu item that
> was selected.
>
> (Hope I haven't confused you more than before!)
>
> Jannetta
>
> ====
> New College Durham
> Product Development Co-ordinator
> X4434
>
> >>> tony at tonybibbs.com 24/03/2004 16:10:40 >>>
> Can you explain your scenario a bit.  It is simply you want to
> dynamically change the title for the same PHP block?
>
> --Tony
>
> On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 09:39, Jannetta Lewis wrote:
> > Hi folks
> >
> > More questions ... Is it possible to override a php block's title in
> > the php code?
> >
> > Jannetta
> >
> > ====
> > New College Durham
> > Product Development Co-ordinator
> > X4434
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-users mailing list
> > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>



From steve at finagle.org  Fri Mar 26 21:39:58 2004
From: steve at finagle.org (Steve Sloan)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:39:58 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] GIF vs. PNG Redux
In-Reply-To: <003701c41348$96427f90$650a10ac@XPBL2>
References: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk> <003701c41348$96427f90$650a10ac@XPBL2>
Message-ID: <4064E97E.20201@finagle.org>

Howdy, all, it's me again ... the PNG fanatic. ;)

Just wanted to mention that I've chosen to convert my Geeklog installation 
(1.3.9) over to PNG, and it's worked just fine for me.  As it turns out, IE 
does still support simple transparency on PNGs (i.e. no alpha channel, indexed 
color only).  I used gif2png to convert all of the distribution GIFs, and 
changed the code more or less by hand.  And although size isn't much of an 
issue on these tiny graphics, the PNGs compress to ~10% smaller.

So, works for me, your mileage may vary, but I encourage you to make this 
change.

-- Steve


From wooge at axonz.com  Fri Mar 26 21:47:42 2004
From: wooge at axonz.com (wOOge)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:47:42 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] GIF vs. PNG Redux
In-Reply-To: <4064E97E.20201@finagle.org>
References: <s061c759.055@NS8.newdur.ac.uk> <003701c41348$96427f90$650a10ac@XPBL2> <4064E97E.20201@finagle.org>
Message-ID: <1E30D51D-7F99-11D8-8CBE-003065763DFA@axonz.com>

trust me... virtually the millisecond IE goes full PNG support, i 
switch all my sites to the PNG goodness.
however, this discussion has inspired me to make a png version of my 
theme before then... hrmm... who knows.


On Mar 26, 2004, at 9:39p, Steve Sloan wrote:

> Howdy, all, it's me again ... the PNG fanatic. ;)
>
> Just wanted to mention that I've chosen to convert my Geeklog 
> installation (1.3.9) over to PNG, and it's worked just fine for me.  
> As it turns out, IE does still support simple transparency on PNGs 
> (i.e. no alpha channel, indexed color only).  I used gif2png to 
> convert all of the distribution GIFs, and changed the code more or 
> less by hand.  And although size isn't much of an issue on these tiny 
> graphics, the PNGs compress to ~10% smaller.
>
> So, works for me, your mileage may vary, but I encourage you to make 
> this change.
>
> -- Steve
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users
>

-- 

wOOge
wooge at axonz.com  |  http://www.axonz.com




From lgonze at panix.com  Mon Mar 29 09:45:47 2004
From: lgonze at panix.com (Lucas Gonze)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:45:47 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-users] http authentication
Message-ID: <C3D3711E-818F-11D8-972C-000393455590@panix.com>

I'm getting a bunch of requests to give my app a better web API, i.e. 
to expose some of the functions for external apps to use.  This is 
doable except that the user authentication isn't based on 
challenge/response, so most web client tools can't set the user and 
password.

(...Of course, the way geeklog does authentication is the right way, 
I'm not complaining about that.)

My question: is there any way to hook the geeklog authentication 
together with HTTP basic authentication?

Thanks in advance.

- Lucas



From steve at finagle.org  Mon Mar 29 14:26:31 2004
From: steve at finagle.org (Steve Sloan)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:26:31 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] Closing a poll?
Message-ID: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>

Is there any way to close a poll, so that the results are still 
available but voting is disabled?

Specifically, I have an old poll (from another site, long since closed), 
and I'd like to keep the results, but not allow any more voting.

Is this supported?

Thanks ...

-- Steve


From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 29 15:39:37 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:39:37 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-users] Closing a poll?
In-Reply-To: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>
References: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>
Message-ID: <20040329203937.25752@smtp.haun-online.de>

Steve,

>Is there any way to close a poll, so that the results are still 
>available but voting is disabled?

Well, if you remove a poll from the front page, the results are still
available through the "past polls" link.

But I guess what you want is to display the results in a block. That is
not possible at the moment.

Most of the code needed for this is already there, though, so it
shouldn't be to hard to do. You could either hack Geeklog's functions to
display polls (in lib-common.php) or copy the code over to a PHP block.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.tinyweb.de/



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Mon Mar 29 16:38:58 2004
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:38:58 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Closing a poll?
In-Reply-To: <20040329203937.25752@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>
	 <20040329203937.25752@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <1080596338.1745.6.camel@localhost>

Oh, and of course, if you do the legwork we'd be more than happy to
include your patch ;-)

--Tony

On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 14:39, Dirk Haun wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> >Is there any way to close a poll, so that the results are still 
> >available but voting is disabled?
> 
> Well, if you remove a poll from the front page, the results are still
> available through the "past polls" link.
> 
> But I guess what you want is to display the results in a block. That is
> not possible at the moment.
> 
> Most of the code needed for this is already there, though, so it
> shouldn't be to hard to do. You could either hack Geeklog's functions to
> display polls (in lib-common.php) or copy the code over to a PHP block.
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 



From steve at finagle.org  Wed Mar 31 01:01:57 2004
From: steve at finagle.org (Steve Sloan)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:01:57 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] Closing a poll?
In-Reply-To: <1080596338.1745.6.camel@localhost>
References: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>	 <20040329203937.25752@smtp.haun-online.de> <1080596338.1745.6.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <406A5ED5.2020402@finagle.org>

Tony Bibbs wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 14:39, Dirk Haun wrote:
>>
>>Well, if you remove a poll from the front page, the results are still
>>available through the "past polls" link.
 >
 > Oh, and of course, if you do the legwork we'd be more than happy to
 > include your patch ;-)

Actually, all I really needed was for the results to be permanent.  I don't 
need to display them.  Discovered that fact shortly *after* my email.  <sigh>

And, in the future I may very well be posting patches, if I can't do it in a 
plugin or a block (I nearly did, but found a workaround).  The sites I'm 
migrating I originally wrote from scratch in Perl, so learning PHP has been no 
great leap.  And I'm very impressed with GeekLog -- you guys have done a 
fantastic job.  Keep up the good work ...

-- Steve


From perry at paducktions.net  Wed Mar 31 12:54:27 2004
From: perry at paducktions.net (Per Oskar Isdahl)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:54:27 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-users] Add large files to the download section with filemgmt
In-Reply-To: <1080596338.1745.6.camel@localhost>
References: <40687867.2020809@finagle.org>
	<20040329203937.25752@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<1080596338.1745.6.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040331195427.2c491081@delta.paducktions.net>

Hi,

I'm running geeklog 1.3.9 and I use the File Management plugin version 1.2.

I got a few files that is >100 MB in size, and I wonder how the heck I'm supposed to add them to My Downloads? Uploading files with php that exceeds a few megs just dont seem reasonable :P

I got the files stored locally on the servers disc, but I dont see how I can upload locally stored files, like /home/user/file.zip, with Filemgmt Admin?

I tried to move the file to <geeklog dir>/public_html/filemgmt_data/files and <geeklog dir>/public_html/filemgmt_data/files/tmp, but that doesn't seem to do the trick :/

Please help me out ;)

-- 
Per Oskar Isdahl
perry at paducktions.net
Linux user #140587
(http://counter.li.org)


From e at marinx.com  Wed Mar 31 13:02:00 2004
From: e at marinx.com (Ed)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:02:00 -0800
Subject: [geeklog-users] Add large files to the download section with filemgmt
In-Reply-To: <20040331195427.2c491081@delta.paducktions.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c4174a$43fadfb0$0a32a8c0@theth>

 : I got a few files that is >100 MB in size, and I wonder how the 
 : heck I'm supposed to add them to My Downloads? Uploading files 
 : with php that exceeds a few megs just dont seem reasonable :P

Update your php.ini file to increase max upload size to your needs.



From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 13:21:07 2004
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:21:07 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-users] Add large files to the download section with
 filemgmt
In-Reply-To: <20040331195427.2c491081@delta.paducktions.net>
References: <20040331195427.2c491081@delta.paducktions.net>
Message-ID: <20040331182107.17965@smtp.haun-online.de>

>I got a few files that is >100 MB in size, and I wonder how the heck I'm
>supposed to add them to My Downloads?

Upload a tiny (or empty file) via the plugin, then upload the large file
via ftp, then edit the name and size of the tiny file (in the filemgmt
plugin).

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.haun.info/



From perry at paducktions.net  Wed Mar 31 13:33:02 2004
From: perry at paducktions.net (Per Oskar Isdahl)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:33:02 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-users] Add large files to the download section with
 filemgmt
In-Reply-To: <20040331182107.17965@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20040331195427.2c491081@delta.paducktions.net>
	<20040331182107.17965@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20040331203302.18069999@delta.paducktions.net>

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:21:07 +0200
"Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> >I got a few files that is >100 MB in size, and I wonder how the heck I'm
> >supposed to add them to My Downloads?
> 
> Upload a tiny (or empty file) via the plugin, then upload the large file
> via ftp, then edit the name and size of the tiny file (in the filemgmt
> plugin).
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://www.haun.info/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-users mailing list
> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users

ok, what a terrible sollution :P

-- 
Per Oskar Isdahl
perry at paducktions.net
Linux user #140587
(http://counter.li.org)
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From tony at tonybibbs.com  Wed Mar 31 13:35:52 2004
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:35:52 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-users] Add large files to the download section with
	filemgmt
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Yeah, but if it is 100MB you are better of going Dirk's route.  At some
point the filemgmt plugin should allow people to simply specify the
server side absolute location and upon saving verify updating the
properties (e.g. file size, etc).

--Tony

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:02, Ed wrote:
>  : I got a few files that is >100 MB in size, and I wonder how the 
>  : heck I'm supposed to add them to My Downloads? Uploading files 
>  : with php that exceeds a few megs just dont seem reasonable :P
> 
> Update your php.ini file to increase max upload size to your needs.
> 
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From sud_NOSPAM at latinsud.com  Wed Mar 31 20:07:51 2004
From: sud_NOSPAM at latinsud.com (SuD)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 03:07:51 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-users] List of writable directories
Message-ID: <406B6B67.3050001@latinsud.com>

Hi, I have my site on a shared server, many users having shells, many of 
them having php access.

Initially i own all the files but apache, which runs user and group 
www-data, must read and write some of them. So i have sensible data 
owned by user sud and group www-data, so other users cannot read or 
write those files. Actually they could read and write any www-data file 
trhough a .php script made by themselves, but that doesnt bother me now.

The thing is that if I want to chgrp to group www-data only files that 
need to be read-only or write-only by apache. Currently install 
instructions tell only 4 directories, but there are more, like backups, 
public_html/images/icons, config.php itself, and maybe more... is there 
a full list somewhere?

I know, i am a bit paranoid, no other user on the machine will try and 
crack my site, and there is no more security in chgrp'ing only some 
files or the whole site. Anyway i want to do the things that way, there 
is no chance by now to run suPhp or php/cgi...