[geeklog-users] Looking for Model / Workflow Documentation and FCKeditor

Tue Jul 10 11:16:52 EDT 2012

The information I found is in the documentation in the wiki.  Combining 
that with a little testing on my side allowed me to get to the results I 
needed.  IMO, if you are going to recommend alternatives, you should

As for making recommendations...

The is the Geeklog Users mailing list.  It is sponsored by the Geeklog 
project, and it is hosted on the Geeklog domain.  If this was a "how do 
I chose a CMS" or a general "CMS questions" type mailing list or forum 
(such as on LinkedIn), then you answer would have been appropriate. 
However, being a Geeklog specific support list should be a pretty big 
clue that the answers provided should be appropriate to Geeklog.

Now, that's not to say there wasn't appropriate ways to answer the 
question, such as  "I don't think Geeklog is the best for this, maybe 
something else would be better.  We can discuss alternatives off the 
mailing list." or "Maybe someone else has a better answer.  However, I 
have some alternatives, contact me off the mailing list for additional 
information."

In this way, you provide an answer, while allowing the list to stick to 
the project that hosts it, and is the primary focus.

George

On 2012-07-09 10:30, SL at usa.net wrote:
> Do you mind sharing the information you found? I'd like to review it
> for comparison... And I think it could help others on this list 
> too...
>
>
> You realize that there is no monetary gain for anyone when we
> recommend other Foss apps, right? Sometimes people are not aware of
> other options so I've found it helpful, at least for myself, when
> people recommend other products that would fit better.. From your
> description, it appeared that you were trying to fit a square peg in 
> a
> round hole so we were just offering alternatives...
>
> Personally, I don't think it's right for you to discourage other
> people on this list from offering alternatives.
>
> Regards, Salim
>
> On Jul 9, 2012 6:00 AM, "SndChaser" <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [54]>
> wrote:
>
>> You don't understand: I have used all three before.  For what I
>> need in this case, Geeklog is quite appropriate.
>>
>> No thanks to you, I finall found the information that I needed,
>> and am well on my way to getting the workflow and configuration
> that
>> I need.
>>
>> Please stop trolling this list trying to get people to switch to
>> other products.  While all of them are good in their own right,
>> users of this mailing list are coming here for support of Geeklog,
>> and not for being told to switch to competing products.  Such
>> activity is highly unprofessional and reflects very negatively on
>> you.
>>
>> George
>>
>> On 2012-07-08 23:10, SL at usa.net [51] wrote:
>>
>>> You can try Drupal vs. WordPress vs. geeklog for free at
>>> WebEnabled.com... My company runs the platform and our support
>>> guys
>>> might be able to help you configure them for your needs.
>>>  Good luck.
>>>  Regards,
>>>  Salim.
>>> On Jul 8, 2012 6:32 PM, "SndChaser" <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
>>> [25] [25]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also not an answer.
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-07-08 19:23, 676, kandyman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drupal or Wordpress can achieve this quite easily.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wordpress: http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities
>>>>> [6]
>>>>> [6] [6]
>>>>> Drupal: http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles
>>>>> [7] [7]
>>>>> [7] 
>>>>>
>>>>> Only thing I could really find about contributing stories:
>>>>> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story [8]
>>>>> [8] [8]
>>>>>  And on approving users:
>>>>> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups [9] [9]
>>>>> [9]
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like the roles are hardcoded?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use to use Geeklog many years ago, but newer systems have
>>>>> sprung
>>>>> up
>>>>> to take its place that are much simpler and advanced.
>>>>>
>>>>> -K
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, SL at usa.net [10] [10] [10]
>>>>> <SL at usa.net [11]
>>>>> [11] [11]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try Drupal instead... Drupal.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2012 4:14 PM, "SndChaser"
>>>>>> <sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [3] [3]
>>>>>> [3]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used Geeklog a long time ago (like 5 or more years
>>>>>>> ago),
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have just come back to working on a site that I believe
>>>>>>> Geeklog
>>>>>>> will be pretty well suited for.  However, I'm having
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>> bridging some of the information about the system that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> available with my needs.  What I am really looking for
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>> of documentation that is more geared towards the
>>>>>>> administrator
>>>>>>> that needs to design a workflow for usage of the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example (however this is possibly a bit simplistic),
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to configure the system to allow for four different
>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> users: admins, editors (those writing / editing stories,
>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>> pages, etc.), contributers (authenticated users
>>>>>>> submitting
>>>>>>> story
>>>>>>> suggestions or ideas), general users (authenticated
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> comment), and general public (ie, un-authenticated).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I am looking for is some kind of documentation that
>>>>>>> walks
>>>>>>> through setting up a group, and applying it through out
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>> system - ie, what menus each group see, which blocks
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> sees, which administrative actions each group can
>>>>>>> perform,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought in the distant past I had seen some
>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>> along these lines.  However, now I appear to only be
>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> technical documentation that describes each of the
>>>>>>> individual
>>>>>>> features, it's options, etc, and not something that
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>> into the overall model / workflow.  Does something like
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> exist and I'm just not finding it? (I honestly feel like
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the verge of remembering stuff, I just need a refresher
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> jog
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> latent synapses...<g>).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I got pretty confused trying to understand what
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> current status of integrating a visual editor into the
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>  I seem to understand there are some issues with
>>>>>>> CKEditor /
>>>>>>> CKImage...but is there another solution, and is there a
>>>>>>> single,
>>>>>>> cohesive document on setting it up with 1.8.1 (or a
>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of Geeklog that's close enough).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any pointers in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> We need to heed the words of the Dalai Lama,
>>>>>>> Or at least, the words of your mama.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Links:
>>>>> ------
>>>>> [1] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [12] [12]
>>>>> [2] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>>>> [13]
>>>>> [13]
>>>>> [3] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [14] [14]
>>>>> [4] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [15] [15]
>>>>> [5] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>>>> [16]
>>>>> [16]
>>>>> [6] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities [17]
>>>>> [17]
>>>>> [7] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles [18]
>>>>> [18]
>>>>> [8] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story
>>>>> [19] [19]
>>>>> [9] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups [20]
>>>>> [20]
>>>>> [10] mailto:SL at usa.net [21] [21]
>>>>> [11] mailto:SL at usa.net [22] [22]
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> We need to heed the words of the Dalai Lama,
>>>> Or at least, the words of your mama.
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>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [26]
>>> [2] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>> [27]
>>> [3] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [28]
>>> [4] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [29]
>>> [5] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>> [30]
>>> [6] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities [31]
>>> [7] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles [32]
>>> [8] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story [33]
>>> [9] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups [34]
>>> [10] mailto:SL at usa.net [35]
>>> [11] mailto:SL at usa.net [36]
>>> [12] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [37]
>>> [13] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>> [38]
>>> [14] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [39]
>>> [15] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [40]
>>> [16] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>> [41]
>>> [17] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities [42]
>>> [18] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles [43]
>>> [19] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story [44]
>>> [20] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups [45]
>>> [21] mailto:SL at usa.net [46]
>>> [22] mailto:SL at usa.net [47]
>>> [23] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net [48]
>>> [24] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
>>> [49]
>>> [25] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org [50]
>>
>> --
>> We need to heed the words of the Dalai Lama,
>> Or at least, the words of your mama.
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>
>
> Links:
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> [2] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [3] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [4] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [5] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [6] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities
> [7] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles
> [8] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story
> [9] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups
> [10] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [11] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [12] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [13] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [14] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [15] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [16] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [17] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities
> [18] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles
> [19] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story
> [20] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups
> [21] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [22] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [23] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [24] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [25] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [26] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [27] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [28] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [29] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [30] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [31] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities
> [32] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles
> [33] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story
> [34] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups
> [35] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [36] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [37] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [38] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [39] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [40] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [41] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [42] http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities
> [43] http://www.drupalgardens.com/documentation/roles
> [44] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Contributing_a_Story
> [45] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Users_and_Groups
> [46] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [47] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [48] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [49] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [50] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org
> [51] mailto:SL at usa.net
> [52] mailto:geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net
> [53] http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-users
> [54] mailto:sndchaser at cerebralrift.org

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