[geeklog-devel] An observation as a semi-developer/user
Simon Lord
slord at marelina.com
Sat Feb 22 11:49:58 EST 2003
I think the wife wants me to do some paint stripping today seeing as
how my contract is over and I have recovered from the flu. So if there
is anything I can do just let me know and I'll get to it. I'll be
working on the forums again soon enough anyhow, I have some template
changes to continue, issues to resolve etc.
On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 09:22 AM, Tony Bibbs wrote:
> I too am in agreement. I have no problem employing the forum plugin
> here. I'd go a step further that if we are going to do 'marketing' in
> the content of the articles then we need to draw up a new theme that
> has more market qualities. So if I hear this right here is what needs
> to be done:
>
> 1) Install forum
> 2) Post new article about shift in focus for articles and announce the
> forums
> 3) Develop a new theme
>
> Of course, this is all find and dandy, question is who will work on
> each task ;-)
>
> Blaine if we do do this, we will definitely want a hack that can
> convert a story submission to a forum post. I gaurantee once we try to
> roll this out we will have users posting things that belong in the
> forums to the story submission queue. I have ideas on how to do this
> that require little change to the core GL stuff...
>
> So, any volunteers? I nominate Knuckles for the theme ;-)
>
> I can install the forum plugin. and post the article
>
> Blaine can you write the converter?
>
> Dirk, either you don't have an opinion on this or you do and have
> been quiet. Any thoughts before we get too far down the road?
>
> --Tony
>
> Blaine Lang wrote:
>> Totally agree!
>> Do we have a forum that we can use?
>> How about a FAQ Plugin to organize the most recent questions as well
>> that is
>> integrated into the GL search?
>> I am just putting the finishing touches on this one - see my site
>> (www.langfamily.ca) for a demo. It's 99% done just testing now.
>> I know one reason we were holding back was that we would need to
>> convert all
>> the existing stories to forum topics.
>> I could write such a tool - but do we really need to wait.
>> Blaine
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jason Whittenburg" <me at jasonwhittenburg.com>
>> To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] An observation as a semi-developer/user
>>> I wouldn't kill him... I do agree...
>>>
>>> I never liked the fact the the geeklog.net (aka
>>> geeklog.sourceforge.net)
>>> was posting peoples problems will Geeklog. A forum would be better
>>> for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> To say again in PHP terms "+1"
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon Lord said:
>>>
>>>> Secret is out Tony, should we kill Rob?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Rob Griffiths wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greeting, GL Dev Team...
>>>>>
>>>>> Something's been bugging me about www.geeklog.net for a while, but
>>>>> I
>>>>> couln't quite figure out what it was. Tonight, though, I believe
>>>>> I've
>>>>> identified what the source of my bother was: I do not think
>>>>> www.geeklog.net is sending a good message about the program to any
>>>>> casual browsers of the site -- that is, potential users of Geeklog.
>>>>> Most days, 90% of the content of the site is about bugs, glitches,
>>>>> install problems, basic questions, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think a better use for the main site would be to restrict
>>>>> it
>>>>> to news of Geeklog, new hacks, official bug fixes from the Dev Team
>>>>> members only, PR announcing sites that have been Geeked, etc. With
>>>>> the Forum 2.0 plug-in available, support questions would be better
>>>>> served in that environment, would they not?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's almost like we've got this amazing car, but when we talk to
>>>>> people about it, all we tell them about is that it's sometimes
>>>>> hard to
>>>>> start, it may break down if it's not treated right, and to get the
>>>>> most out of it, you really need to RTFM. Shouldn't we be
>>>>> publicizing
>>>>> what Geeklog >can< do instead of focusing on what troubles people
>>>>> are
>>>>> having with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I took a quick look at the home pages for phpnuke, mambo, phpslash,
>>>>> phpwebsite, webgenerator-x, drupal, e107, LDU, and ovidentia
>>>>> (thanks
>>>>> to opensourcecms.com :-). Of those, only one or two have any sort
>>>>> of
>>>>> troubleshooting stuff on their homepages at all (phpwebsite had
>>>>> some
>>>>> random support questions and postnuke had a section called
>>>>> "Support").
>>>>>
>>>>> The main focus of the pages is not help or questions, but rather,
>>>>> announcements and information. Geeklog is the only CMS homepage
>>>>> that
>>>>> I visited that seemed to emphasize bugs and help directly on the
>>>>> homepage...
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that anyone asked me, but ... ... I would think a "staticpage"
>>>>> homepage with a full center pane of info about Geeklog -- what it
>>>>> is,
>>>>> how it works, top 10 sites its installed on, newest "Geekings," a
>>>>> link
>>>>> for the support forum, a link to a sample site (opensourcecms.org),
>>>>> etc. would be a much better "selling" tool than the current
>>>>> collection
>>>>> of help requests and "failed to RTFM" bug reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> <asbestos>
>>>>> Flame away....
>>>>> </asbestos>
>>>>>
>>>>> -rob.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Simon
>>>>
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Sincerely,
Simon
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