[geeklog-devel] Anti Spam Features

[Tony Bibbs]

No actually that isn't quite what I was getting at.  What you just said 
makes a lot of sense.

Vincent Furia wrote:
> Sorry, I wasn't too clear.  What I meant was to initially ban only 
> anonymous comments from an IP that is spamming the comments (with the 
> assumption most spammers won't go through the trouble of spamming).  
> This could be implmented on the first spam recieved and would hopefully 
> limit the trouble caused by spammers behind large proxies (like AOL).  
> If a spammer does register, then you can block by username/email.  And 
> if you have a really persistant, pain in the ass spammer, then you can 
> completely block by IP.  This way an admin can allow anonymous comments 
> generally, but block anonymous comments from specific IPs.
> 
> I'd also note that it may be a good idea to tie this in with Geeklog's 
> ability to send emails (i.e. a banned IP won't be able to submit 
> comments or send email to site users).
> 
> This may be exactly what you were already talking about, but I just 
> wanted to make sure I was clear on it.
> 
> -Vinny
> 
> Tony Bibbs wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, obviously you would start by banning anonymous comments.  What I 
>> was after is the more difficult use case of admins who want to allow 
>> anonymous comments yet prevent spam.  Good clarification though as, 
>> obviously, banning a username is much easier and reliable to do than 
>> an IP.
>>
>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>
>>> One thing I'd recommend is rather than a total ban on an IP address, 
>>> at least initially, only ban anonymous users from posting comments.  
>>> Then you can ban from there based on email address/username.  And 
>>> then only as a last resort ban all comments from an IP address.
>>>
>>> -Vinny
>>>
>>> Tom Willett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Add the ip to the comments in geeklog and my ban plugin could easily 
>>>> handle the rest. All I would have to do is add the logic to check 
>>>> for the repeated spam comments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Tom Willett
>>>> tomw at pigstye.net
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>>>> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>>>> Sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:09:17 -0600
>>>> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Anti Spam Features
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> As noted in the forums of Geeklog.net it appears a growing trend is 
>>>>> the spamming of blogs.  With Geeklog a big player in this arena I 
>>>>> think we would be wise to start thinking up ways to implement anti-
>>>>> spam measures.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the start would be to be able to mark comments as spam.  
>>>>> When a comment is identified as spam I think the IP should be 
>>>>> logged.  In the config.php file I think we could then set a spam 
>>>>> threshold at say 5. What that means is if a an IP is tied to 
>>>>> spamming the Geeklog site five times then we would ban that IP.  I 
>>>>> know using IP's isn't the greatest but my hunch is 99% of this sort 
>>>>> of spam would come from static IP's and not proxy IP's.  However, 
>>>>> we should still allow admins to turn this feature on or off.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other bit of useful logic would be to check if the source IP of 
>>>>> spam has been tied to comments which weren't identified as spam.  
>>>>> If we did that then in our logic we could basically check a) has 
>>>>> the IP hit the threshold, if so has it been used in non-spam 
>>>>> comments.  If it *has* been used in non-spam comments then we could 
>>>>> assume it is from a proxied IP and not ban the IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also think later versions of this could use MySQL's full text 
>>>>> searching capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> To start, if we were to add the IP to the comment table I think we 
>>>>> could write a plugin to do all this.  OF course this assumes that a 
>>>>> plugin API is called when a comment is submitted which may or may 
>>>>> not be the case ( I can't remember).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure you guys may have other ideas too.
>>>>>
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