Hmm ... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/2157206 Then go to http://webjay.org/ and click on "discuss". Notice the URL :-) I assume this is the same person who hangs around on IRC occasionally under the nick "lgonze". bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.handful-of-sparks.de/