[geeklog-devel] Geeklog Multi Language Setups IMPORTANT

[Niemans]

To my opinion there are only 3 options:

1. one runs a domestic site only.
This means a default domestic language and all content will be in that domestic language.

2. one runs a domestic site with a few languages for navigation.
This still means that all content will be in the default domestic languae.

3. one runs a world site withe multi-lingual content.
The term "multi-lingual site" is confusing; better is "a site with multi-lingual content".
> below the Language Frame called "Multi-Languages".
Call this "multi-lingual Content". Choices are "allow" or "separated".


While options 1 and 2 are quite similar, it is to be noticed that they both deal with language files only.

For option 3, which has nothing to do with the language files, just with the content, it would be sufficient to add a language selection to the story.
The dropdown could just add "_en" or "_de" to the story_id.
Off course a "none" or "any" value could be used in the dropdown. Or maybe even a "default" value.

To complicate things, what about a fourth option, being multi-lingual AND swap navigation using the language files.
This option could specify that my navigation is english but I would subscribe to the dutch content.

Concluding.
Being a site with multi-lingual content means two things:
1. show only the content in my language (and general content).
2. swap the language when I hit content in a different language: the content is leading for language swaps.

Be aware of (2). 
--What to do if two stories display (on the home page) in different languages. This is contradictory with (1).
--Make this behavior optional or make the "language" (navigation) fixed.
--Set the language on first entry for anonymous or negotiate with the browser.

Wim


Op 13 jul. 2013, om 21:12 heeft Tom het volgende geschreven:

> I have a few points I want to discuss. Since I don't run a multi-language
> site I thought it was best to get some opinions on a few changes I was
> planning to make things a little clearer when setting up a multi-language
> site:
> 
> Point #1
> 
> I was working on this issue
> 
> http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1620
> 
> which is a bug about Topics assigned to all languages are not displaying in
> the Topic Block for Multilanguage sites.
> 
> After looking at things more closely to make sure stories, blocks, etc.
> where working I realized that the block was behaving as it should and in a
> multi-language site any topic, story, etc. not assigned to a language
> doesn't get displayed period.
> 
> I am not sure I like how this works as it is confusing to new users and old
> alike (I didn't remember how it worked!).
> 
> Basically I would like and item (story, topic, etc..) not assigned to a
> language to be returned along with any item that does belong to a language
> for a specific language. I see this being useful to people who want to
> include content to be displayed for both languages without having to create
> separate items.
> 
> Besides the topic block this change is easy and only requires a few line
> changes for COM_getLangSQL
> 
> 
> Point #2
> 
> Remy also came up with a few ideas to make multi language sites easier to
> setup (http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1621). While I do not
> have the time at the moment to work on every item in his list here is what I
> propose.
> 
> - On the user My Account page. Currently if the user is allowed to pick a
> language he can pick any language that is available in the language
> directory. This is fine for single language sites but for Multi Language
> content sites this doesn't work. Only language mappings setup in the config
> should be displayed here since picking a language not mapped means no
> language is set (at least for stories, topics, etc..) and for example all
> stories are returned, even those assigned to other languages.
> 
> - In the configuration tab "languages & locale" Change config variable:
> "language" into "default site language". In the tool tip we should also
> point them to the "Users" tab and the "Allow User Language (?)" config
> option since this controls if the user is able to switch the language.
> 
> - We also need to make it clear what a Multi Language site means. It means
> that Geeklog will not only display the labels, etc. in the selected language
> but content like Topics, Stories and Blocks as well. On the "Language" tab I
> think we should move the "Language Files" and "Languages" config options
> into a separate frame below the Language Frame called "Multi-Languages".
> There tooltips should also be updated  to explain that these 2 config
> options are linked and must be setup similar and also explain that this
> refers to content in multiple languages.
> 
> - While we are at it then, I think we might as well move the "Allow User
> Language (?)" config option from the Users tab to the Language tab since it
> does affect if the user can even switch languages.
> 
> Thoughts???
> 
> Tom
> 
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