[geeklog-devel] caching template library

Alford Deeley ajdeeley at telus.net
Thu Nov 29 23:52:23 EST 2007

That is certainly more reasonable an explanation than your previous 
statement to which I referred.  Excuse my reaction.  I have however been 
able to do this myself using PHP withou having to output HTML.  I guess 
it doesn't really matter if you can or not.  What is preferable is what 
you seem to be getting at so in that regard, no prob.  I haven't looked 
at gl15 yet, but if Dirk has indeed inserted the necessary changes that 
Joe has determined, then why the inaccurate comment, yet again, about 
the dev team not "wanting" to use the lib?

on 29/11/2007 8:03 PM Mark R. Evans wrote:
> Alford,
> I don't think you understand what I'm describing, on a multi-row 
> display of albums that uses the set_block feature, some have 
> sub-albums, some don't.  Using the dynamic capability of of the 
> caching library, I can now check in the template if the sub album 
> variable is set, if not, then use the colspan=2 otherwise call the 
> second <td>subalbum list</td>.  So each row is unique, no way to do 
> that with the existing library unless I actually built the HTML output 
> in the PHP code which is moving in the wrong direction!
> As for a ridiculous and immature tactic, you are certainly entitled to 
> your opinion.  But my take on it is that now I have the ability to 
> bring a whole lot of new functionality to my plugins, reduce the 
> actual PHP code and improve their performance.  To me, that is a 
> plus.  Joe did such a good job on making this backward compatible, I 
> feel pretty comfortable requiring it for future releases of my code.  
> Installation is simple and straight forward.  Dirk has already 
> committed the necessary fixes to GL 15, so having folks drop it into 
> their tree should be pretty straight forward. 
> As with anything here, no one forces anyone to use anything.  If folks 
> don't want to use the caching library, that is fine, there is a 
> current release of all my plugins that work fine without it.  But 
> moving forward, I want to take advantage of the new features it 
> provides.  It opens up a lot of new possibilities that I believe bring 
> a lot of value. 
> Thanks!
> Mark
> On 11/29/07, *Alford Deeley* <ajdeeley at telus.net 
> <mailto:ajdeeley at telus.net>> wrote:
>     on 29/11/2007 6:00 PM Mark R. Evans wrote:
>     > ...For example, on the main index page if there were sub-albums,
>     then
>     > I needed a column to display the subalbum info, for those albums
>     that
>     > had none, it just had a blank column.  Now I can check if
>     > lang_subalbum is set, if not, dynamically call a td colspan=2
>     and use
>     > the whole page width for that album display.
>     > ...
>     You don't need a template caching library to accomplish this.  c'mon!
>     You can do that easily with the code you have.  It's just one more
>     template variable.
>     > Too bad the core team doesn't want to use it, but I can assure you
>     > that many folks will if they want to take advantage of all the new,
>     > neat features in Media Gallery :)
>     >
>     That is such a ridiculous and immature tactic!
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